John Cage 4'33''
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rodrigo90
December 12th 2018


7387 Comments


"I don't have a waifu, "

This is a lie and I just want to know the truth

Yep, we all have a waifu.

This is mine> http://blog.espol.edu.ec/madecaam/files/2011/06/lime0082.jpg Isn't she adorable?

J() Alexander
December 12th 2018


7914 Comments


Uh, yeah, she is, but I don't really have one so... Yeah.

GhandhiLion
January 28th 2019


17643 Comments


Reminder that rating this is akin to adding and rating this video on sputnik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_JygUgiweI

J() Alexander
January 28th 2019


7914 Comments


I can do what I want because I hate Cage and everyone related to the New York School.

sixdegrees
January 28th 2019


13127 Comments


so where is your rating then

GhandhiLion
January 28th 2019


17643 Comments


You hate Morton Feldman? ok

J() Alexander
January 28th 2019


7914 Comments


Yeah.

GhandhiLion
January 28th 2019


17643 Comments


why?, also have you listened to any of Cages prepared piano pieces?

Source
January 28th 2019


19917 Comments




YakNips
January 28th 2019


20098 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

feldman is way better than cage

J() Alexander
January 28th 2019


7914 Comments


Bah, I can describe Cage and Feldman (I'm not going to include Wolff and Brown because I've barely listened to their music, even if what I listened to wasn't something I liked) as all ideas (bad ideas) with no musical substance, like early Steve Reich with his phasing bullshit, everyone masturbating their "originality", probably because they couldn't make good music with traditional harmony or using serialism to save their lives. And yes, I've listened to Cage's sonatas and interludes (and more than that), no idea how Boulez saw any worth in those things.

J() Alexander
January 28th 2019


7914 Comments


I wouldn't say Feldman is much better, just less terrible.

YakNips
January 28th 2019


20098 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

his sense for unorthodox harmonies is actually incredible, however masturbatory the actual compositions might be

J() Alexander
January 28th 2019


7914 Comments


The only good thing in his late works is that part that is about 10 - 15 minutes long in For Philip Guston that has a fairly normal harmony.

GhandhiLion
January 28th 2019


17643 Comments


"Steve Reich with his phasing bullshit, everyone masturbating their "originality", probably because they couldn't make good music with traditional harmony"
Like Phillip Glass?

What do you find terrible sbout Feldman exactly?

J() Alexander
January 28th 2019


7914 Comments


Honestly I don't like Glass as much as I used to anymore (and I never liked him after 1982 anyway, I give him credit for at least making things more entertaining than early Reich but that's about it). I should mention that I think that both Reich and Glass are able to make good music with traditional harmony, that part was only about Cage and Feldman.
Feldman, from what I listened to, of course, has two things that annoy me greatly: his experiments with chance, probably the worst idea of the entire 20th century, and his idea of making sounds independent, making one sound have little to no relation with another, his music has no development (for the most part, at least), it's just things that exist, and he perfectly knew what he was doing (that makes things even worse).
The Something Wild incident is funny though.

veninblazer
January 28th 2019


16837 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

oh my we got alex nerding out finally

hal1ax
January 28th 2019


15775 Comments


think your argument is pretty sound and understandable actually. i just disagree fundamentally insofar as i enjoy most of the aspects you find fault in... pertaining to feldman, anyway @alex

YakNips
January 28th 2019


20098 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

alex you don’t like the last movement in rothko chapel?

kalkwiese
January 28th 2019


10416 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

The troll-ishness of this is actually genius lmao

Deserves more than 1.0 for that alone



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