Therion Beloved Antichrist
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budgie
February 19th 2018


36505 Comments


oof 182 minutes. heh

is that supposed to be a bust of nero on the cover?

MarsKid
Emeritus
February 19th 2018


21035 Comments


See, I don't think it's necessarily an attention span thing. The longer an album is, the more space that needs to be filled. The more space required, the more ideas and material you need, which always runs the risk of becoming stale over time and exhausting concepts. Movies are susceptible to the same dilemma. Simply put, it's easier to color in a piece of computer paper than a 12ft. X 12ft. canvas if yaknowwhatimsayin

I also have never heard these guys before and I don't think this is the proper record to enter on

manosg
Emeritus
February 19th 2018


12709 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Very good point. To me, this has its fair share of good ideas. Are they enough to keep my attention for 182 minutes without doing anything at all? No and there is a real danger of this album becoming background noise for a lot of listeners i.e. while working, studying, etc. which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But at the same time, I feel that a lot of people are focusing a bit too much on the running time trying to see whether it is justified by the number of ideas which is reasonable, but they miss the good moments that the album has.

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
February 19th 2018


10781 Comments


The only album where it really feels like they treated both metal and classical equally was Theli.

Agreed.

I still regret not catching the band when it toured for that album.




For the new album, I reckon its duration would not be such a thing, if I read the lyrics while I listened to the music.

XfingTheSullen
February 20th 2018


5282 Comments


I'm always down for some good Therion, but this average is downright discouraging lol

Hawks
February 20th 2018


89540 Comments


27 character roles, 15 vocalists, 46 tracks and 182 minutes of running time.

Good god does that sound awful.

Astral Abortis
February 20th 2018


6731 Comments


"is that supposed to be a bust of nero on the cover?"

I imagine it would be.

Willie
Moderator
February 20th 2018


20216 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

--27 character roles, 15 vocalists, 46 tracks and 182 minutes of running time.--



It would be awesome if it was done by a band with the ability to pull it off. The average Therion album is a chore to get through with too few good ideas even at normal length... that's the problem here.

XfingTheSullen
February 20th 2018


5282 Comments


Yeah, Therion is generally a band of great songs, but so-so albums. Even their best albums have moments you wish weren't there

ScuroFantasma
Emeritus
February 22nd 2018


12066 Comments


Great review. On one hand this sounds like it would be a an epic journey, on the other hand I'm too cynical to believe it's not instead going to be 3 hours of streeeeetched ideas, but hell if I have time I'll try and confirm which it is.

manosg
Emeritus
February 22nd 2018


12709 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Thanks, Scuro! This was my mentality more or less so I completely understand. What worked for me, was that I initially listened to a few tracks, then each Act individually, and lastly the whole thing so that might help you.

Egarran
February 22nd 2018


34342 Comments


Sweet review, thanks. I really admire these ambitious projects that give no fucks about standards (see Ayreon).

Now to listen to the actual music.

manosg
Emeritus
February 22nd 2018


12709 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Agreed Eg. I read a Christofer Johnsson interview a while ago and his mentality was more or less the one you described. He was like, we are not fashionable anymore and people have moved from symphonic metal because it's not the '90s anymore. So, let me release this thing now and people will at least notice and comment on it because of its running time.

Egarran
February 22nd 2018


34342 Comments


Fuck yes m/

ScuroFantasma
Emeritus
February 22nd 2018


12066 Comments


"I initially listened to a few tracks, then each Act individually, and lastly the whole thing so that might help you."

Not a bad idea at all, I'll give it a shot


manosg
Emeritus
February 23rd 2018


12709 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Hope you enjoy, dude. Love your dig too.

christhjian
March 16th 2018


715 Comments


Ok, this doesn't seem a good album to start checking this band out. Some of the songs I've listened weren't my cup of tea at all... 3 hours is pretty ambitious anyway

manosg
Emeritus
March 16th 2018


12709 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This is definitely not a good album to start checking this band out. You may want to check Beyond Sanctorum if you want to check their death metal era, Theli which is a nice balance of their metal and symphonic elements, or Vovin which is their best symphonic album imo.

christhjian
March 16th 2018


715 Comments


Yeah, I tried out few songs from Theli. Didn't like it very much either. I'll try to remember to check their dm era though, thanks

But yeah that 3 hour length, it was still quite a surprise I must say...

DarkNoctus
November 22nd 2020


12225 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

genuinely unlistenable



i'm astounded i listened to this



torture



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