Trivium The Sin and the Sentence
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MetalBadger
October 26th 2017


5 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Haha. Granted, you can give me stick about grammar and choice of expression... but, I fail to see how my appreciation of a record can be critiqued rationally unless we had a shared meaning of vocabulary and bench-marking for experience. So what if I gave a 5 - I felt that Trivium made a complete Trivium album - they did not make a complete (fill in your favourite band here) album so that maybe why you disagree - more power to you for disagreeing.



Couldn't care less about what 'folk round here' do as a normative practice - surely it'd be a boring echo chamber if everyone thought and expressed the same things?



Thanks for +ve comments - and I appreciate any push-back conducted in a meaningful way.

FallenRo
October 26th 2017


4 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I guess different people see the same ratings very, very differently.



While growing up I got used to the Romanian school grading system (1 to 10 scale, where 10 is max and you need a 5 to pass the year) so when I need to rate something, even now, a more than a decade later, I usually think things on that system, where anything below the middle of the interval is utter crap and not worth having another look at.



So, for me a 2.5 rating would be the minimum barely acceptable rating for something (let's say for an album off which I like only ~25% of the songs), while for others 2.5 is a decent rating. I would rate 3 only if I would consider the album "meh" (like ~40% of the songs). A 4 would be something like "this is cool" (like ~60% of the songs) and a 5 would be an "awesome" (like over 75% of the songs, which is the case with this album).



zaruyache
October 26th 2017


27390 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

I think most would presume a 5/5 means you like... 5... out of 5 songs. Liking 75% of an album shouldn't warrant a perfect score in most people's books.

Mabbitt
October 26th 2017


1831 Comments


5/5 means that the album is flawless and there is no room for improvement. If you only like 75% of the songs, that means that 1/4 of the album isn't good. Hardly deserving of a perfect score. It's not a pass/fail system like in school. It's a way of ranking the album against other albums. If an album has every song be perfect, doesn't it deserve a higher score than the album where a quarter of them are bad?

MetalBadger
October 27th 2017


5 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Thanks for the clarifications on scoring! Much appreciated.



I guess that I could concede that maybe 5/5 is a bit over zealous.



But, I do like every song for what each song is, I am convinced that, like Shogun, it will age well, as each song has some interesting features that I found particularly good. And, it is the best Trivium album that Trivium could've done at this time - so I stand by assessment that this is the most 'Trivium' Trivium album to date.

FallenRo
October 27th 2017


4 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, but I'm every picky and I've never, ever had an album on which I liked all songs (this one included), so this means I would never be able to give anything a 5 star rating. So, considering this, if an album has 8 very good songs and two I don't particularly enjoy (like Endless Nights and Thrown into the Fire here), then that album is still a 5 from my point of view.

swipenet
October 27th 2017


3352 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

It's nice to have more generous raters here to counterbalance the obviously less generous ones.

Tundra
November 29th 2018


9654 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Never seen a review with this many pos/neg's and have so little comments lol

FreakMachine
September 30th 2023


1913 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

best trivium agreed m/

Scoot
December 15th 2023


22199 Comments


still blows me away how good this is

Zac124
December 15th 2023


2675 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Probably best Trivium after In the Court of the Dragon.

DaveyMonsoon
December 15th 2023


1046 Comments


Shogun tho

Also Ember to Inferno is pretty underrated.

Zac124
December 15th 2023


2675 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Shogun is really good. Definitely their third best. Never really got into the debut outside the title track. It is good but all other albums did that style far better imo.

metalphil
January 14th 2024


729 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Fuck I totally forgot about this band for a few years, gotta revisit this asap

metalphil
January 17th 2024


729 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Unfortunately this did not age that well for me. Still some really sick tracks here but there's also a lot of completely forgettable songs as well

Beardog
March 10th 2024


5198 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's a shame this record doesn't have the drummer from Vengenance Falls / In Waves tbh, he really fit this band best imo. Can probably see my rating for this drop if I do a relisten.



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