Charles Mingus The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
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Tb1114
April 24th 2016


729 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Easy 5.



I listened to it a few times just to make sure it was still a 5. Still a 5.



Azkushang
April 27th 2016


85 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

you have a point altertide0, you prefer a more free sound,improvisation, I prefer a more dense orchestration. I have yet to listen more times the Ascension album more times. Most probably if it is a big band instrumental album he took inspiration from "The Sinner". I like all the records by Coltrane.

CusmanX1
June 5th 2016


375 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The first two tracks are truly one of the best things I've ever heard in music. I can't say the same for the other two.

JamieTwort
June 5th 2016


26988 Comments


I can.

sonictheplumber
June 5th 2016


17533 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Powerful

MeatSalad
July 2nd 2016


18567 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

my fuck this is good, ashamed i'm only getting around to it now

iloveyouall
July 2nd 2016


6312 Comments


it's solid, but there's a lot better out there.

Cygnatti
July 2nd 2016


36026 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

agreed wit basically everything altertide has said

iloveyouall
July 2nd 2016


6312 Comments


pretty much.

hal1ax
July 2nd 2016


15775 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ya alter speaks truth

but for me, improv doesn't necessarily strike me as being more emotionally affective than arranged pieces. I think that's more determined by how they play their instruments.

Cygnatti
July 2nd 2016


36026 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

of course, either or are very valid approaches to music or what have you. in my experience, they generally achieve and aim for different things, but they don't necessarily have to.

Asdfp277
July 2nd 2016


24305 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

just do the things with the sounds

treeqt.
July 2nd 2016


16970 Comments


don't forget the things without the sounds though

parksungjoon
July 2nd 2016


47235 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

what a surprising thread... not



anyway ppl check mingus mingus mingus mingus mingus

treeqt.
July 2nd 2016


16970 Comments


I don't think that's what jazz should be about (we have classical for that after all)

genres don't make music
but I was never a fan of (non-modern) classical anyway, the harmonies, however complex (I like complex) could never touch me as much as dissonance, they're too perfect, too "super-human" to move me.

tried renaissance music?
The big reason I dig this album is that it's the first jazz album that truly feels like an orchestral piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfNzcqhyBSM

altertide0
July 2nd 2016


3026 Comments


"genres don't make music"

true. it's just that usually when you think about jazz you think about improvised/jam music just like when usually when you think about classical you think about composed music. although these are only stereotypes, i'm aware of that. so:

"tried renaissance music?"

see above. but seems interesting, i'll certainly try, thank you.

Asdfp277
July 2nd 2016


24305 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

p. meaningless stereotypes too, shouldn't judge an album based on what it's 'supposed' to sound like, though i do get ur point of view

Azkushang
August 7th 2016


85 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

For you improvised it's better, for me it isn't, because the simple logic that classical music has, the greatest music is like a huge building made by an architect, all is planned, keys related to each other like a river flowing, of course many of that coposition comes from improvisations, so impros are a undeveloped pieces of music compared with the whole composed piece, that's my approach. A great composer has a great improvisation skills, Mingus had that gift too "altertide0", just look for the album "Mingus plays piano - Spontaneous Compositions And Improvisations"



Great classical composers did a lot of improvisation too.



For me this album takes the cake for the all-time greatest.

JamieTwort
August 7th 2016


26988 Comments


Agreed.

YakNips
August 7th 2016


20098 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

there's still the feeling of being in the moment while listening to improvised music that is undeniably thrilling, but because mingus is such a talented improviser as well as composer, the difference to me is negligible



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