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Mythodea
February 7th 2017


7457 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I find myself missing Kristoffer and Fredrik more than Langell. Leo is phenomenal for me.

e210013
February 7th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

@ Mythodea

I can agree with you in a certain way. In terms of originality, nowadays we don't have really great innovative bands like we had in the classic period. For instance, of the ten bands taht I consider the best and most influential in the 70's, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Camel, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator and Rush, despite that many of them have many simillitudes such as the symphonic prog bands, Genesis, Yes, Camel and ELP, they're all differents. As we use to say, all equal and all differents. It's really impressive but all of them have its singularity. Even in some other great bands very close to them in terms of quality, for instance, Caravan, Renaissance, The Moody Blues, Barclay James Harvest, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Focus, Kansas,Procol Harum, Strawbs, Supertramp, Triumvirat and many others, especially many French, Italian and German bands they have clearly their own personal style.

However, in the last 7 years we have also great prog albums from great prog bands and artists. For instance we have Steven Wilson, Opeth, IQ, Anglagard, Discipline, Haken, Anekdoten, Neal Morse, Riverside, The Flower Kings, Anathema, Ayreon and Fates Warning only to mention some of them. Maybe they aren't so original as the 70's bands but they're all good bands with great albums that continue walking a path with a very interesting quality.

e210013
February 7th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

@ Jethro

Here it is another elder of this site. Bravo. This is why we both have a so common taste. After all we both have had a very common path in terms of music despite we live in different countries, even in different continents and cultures. In my case were my school friends that introduced me into prog music. Of course in those times we don't used the expression prog. And due to the darkness of prog, in the 80's, I also listened the music of the new wave movement and I like many bands that appeared in those times. Besides that, I also love classical music, especially the classical music made in the Baroque period. And as with you I became very entusist with the 90's, in terms of prog. It was almost a ressurection from the grave, despite the enthusiasm I felt in the 80's with the appearence of the neo-prog, in special with Marillion albums in Fish era.

I knew that you probably would change your rating to 5.0. A man with good and refined taste, is abble to know perfectly very well a prog masterpiece. Ah, Ah, Ah,...

e210013
February 7th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Thanks guys for sharing with me your opinions. In reality all those ex-members of the band are a great loss for the band, indeed.

Mythodea
February 8th 2017


7457 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I agree with the ''all the same, yet all so different'' opinion. Of course those bands remained famous because of their individual styles. As for today, I can't refuse there's aplenty to admire, some artists I like more than others (I'm a known Wilson groupie on this site). However, it's left to be seen whether these bands will stand the test of time in the decades to come. So far so good, but only a few of them have actually been integral to the music scene of today.

e210013
February 8th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I agree Mythodea. All must pass the test of time, and to pass the test of time, it's need much more years, indeed.

tef
February 8th 2017


209 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Not so old as you guys but not the youngest either....

I think there will be only a handfull of "rock" bands of this day and age that will be remembered 30 years from now; Radiohead, maybe Arcade Fire (The Suburbs being a def classic imo)....not much else springs to mind.

'80s-'90s has a lot more timeless stuff with Bowie, Prince, Queen, Guns&Roses, U2.

e210013
February 8th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, but more in the 90's than in the 80's. Of course there a few bands really good in the 80's, like Radiohead, Guns&Roses and U2, only to report the name mention by you. But for instance, Bowie, Prince and Queen, began in the end of the 60's or in the beggining of the 70's. Anyway, you may be right. There are some bands nowadays making great albums, but probably it lack to them a certain originality and creativity to be remembered as icons of a generation, in the future.

Jethro42
February 8th 2017


18278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Here's a good list for the 80's

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=429519&listid=73137

And another one for the 90's

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/unj/spin_magazines_top_90_albums_of_the_90s/

No prog included.

e210013
February 9th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Thanks Jethro

I'm very familiar with the list of the 80's than the 90's.

About the list of 80's it's very good with some great albums. Albums like "The Joshua Tree", "Tunnel Of Love", "Synchronicity", "Brothers In Arms", "Back In The High Life", "Stars", "Reckless", "No Jacket Required" "We Are Devo!", "Remain In Light", "Look Sharp!" And "Movement" are really albums closer to my personal taste that I like very much.

About the list of the 90's I only know and like of "Nevermind", "Ok Computer", "In Utero", "Achtung Baby" and "Automatic For The People".

Anyway, that seems that both are nice lists out of prog.

Jethro42
February 9th 2017


18278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Same here, I'm more familiar with the 80s cos a lot of it got its share of airplay in my youth. For the 90s, you have two pages (it contains 90 albums) in case you don't know. If I know a big amount of them, it's thanks to Sputnik. I discovered so much music from the 90's to the 2000's on here.

e210013
February 9th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Thanks for the information my friend. I saw there are two pages but I completely forgot that. I'm going to check it soon. In the 90's and 2000's I became more linked to prog bands. As a newbie on Sputnik I I only discovered many of those prog bands, essentialy on Progarchives.

tef
February 10th 2017


209 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

A lot of great albums on these lists, but not a lot of bands that will prove to be timeless I'm afraid. Arguments can be made for acts like Air and The Prodigy, being pretty different than everything else and still quite recognisable to this day. I'm no fan of Hip-hop but I think a band like Public Enemy will go down in histiry as very important (I think this is already the case). Only other band that I wanted to mention in my previous post was Sonic Youth; I think they are so much more influential then most people realize. An poll among readers of Guitar Magazine or some magazine like that, some years back did put them in the op 5 of most influential guitar players, which was a pleasant surprise to me. Candle and Goo are classic in that respect.

Jethro42
February 10th 2017


18278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I haven't noticed there were hip hop albums on the list. Like I said, I'm not an expert for the music of the 90's. I've chosen the list pretty much randomly. However, I was familiar with the 80's list cos most of it matches with what I used to listen in the 80's if I don't count jazz and prog rock.

As for Sonic Youth, I can see they're influential. I just relistened to Candle and I can hear some Pavement, Modest Mouse and Built to Spill into it, and The Cure probably knew them. Then again, I'm not an expert in punk and post punk music either. If you have nothing against (moderate) metal, try Virus (NO)...They're experimental and the guitar is prominent. I can detect similarities with Sonic Youth in the guitar playing.

Will get round to The Prodigy and Air, by curiosity.

Cheers.



Mythodea
February 10th 2017


7457 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i believe the Prodigy influenced not only the sound of 90's, but also the look of performances. They were great.

Jethro42
February 11th 2017


18278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Listening to it atm...Pure energy. Not bad at all, but I don't know if we have to be in the mood for best results...

tef
February 15th 2017


209 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Try Moon Safari, that's easier on the ears...

Music For The Jilted Generation is calssic early 90's and musically super interesting.



e210013
February 15th 2017


5165 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, the Swedish group Moon Safari is really a nice band with their vocal harmony laden and a very melodic approach to modern Symphonic Prog.

tef
February 18th 2017


209 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Like

Jethro42
February 20th 2017


18278 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't see me listening to The Prodigy on a regular basis. Too much electronic for me. I still have to listen to Moon Safari.



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