you said modern mainstream tracks, and no one considers any of them golden age aside from early Common or early Outkast. a huge bulk of their work came after "golden age" anyway. hip hop has been around long enough to where some mainstream rappers NOT considered "golden age" are in their mid 40s so it doesnt matter how old they are

Album Rating: 3.5

lol key

Album Rating: 4.5

I dunno I think you are grasping at straws if you can't come up with 10 good mainstream songs by

artists 32 and under that actually are about more than bitches and money (this whole discussion is

about whether teenagers can judge music as well as 30 year olds). Your post basically confirmed what

I already thought, Tyler and Drake can't make deep songs that aren't boring, but older rappers can.



i dont think teenagers can even fathom how much the internet alone has changed life and music,

especially rap. 90s hip hop heads want to go back to a time before your respect was determined by

the amount of likes on your facebook posts/pictures. Thats something teenagers cant relate to, they

walk around with devices in your pocket so you are essentially available to everyone they have ever

met 24/7 365... its not hard to wonder why they front so much, they are essentially trapped in a

virtual highschool for their entire life, and its not hard to see how that turns into millions of

kids digging fake ass music that 30 year olds rationally despise.

suup

Dude, aside from Common and Eminem, every artist I listened was 30 and under when they made those songs. And their age has nothing to do with anything, it is "modern mainstream" in any event so quit accusing me of grasping at straws when you are going off on tangents that are essentially irrelevant to anything. I'm like 4 years younger than you, quit chiding me like I'm a little kid. You grew up during the internet age every bit as much as I did. I'm turning 20 in May. I grew up all through high school listening to Golden Age hip hop, I was anti-modern rap too for the longest time. I'm sorry if you make no formal attempt to even understand or appreciate modern artists and instead subscribe to some ridiculously elitist belief that hip hop has to be a very certain way or go for a certain aesthetic when the shallow rap you deplore today predates the conscious rap you put on such a pedestal.

I don't find those Drake or Tyler, the Creator songs boring at all. To each his own.

Hep just because I haven't been on this site my whole adult life compiling 30k posts doesn't mean I'm not well-listened enough.

Album Rating: 4.5

sry breh i wasnt even aware if you were younger or older than me, and 19-20 isn't really what I am

trying to convey when I am talking about teenagers. I was just arguing generally based on what I

think is true from what i've seen.



It's true i've never listened to a lot of Drake, but I feel like i can still tell hes not elite

based on the few things i've heard from him. From my perspective it's like walking into a gym and

seeing a fat guy airballing hookshots, and concluding hes not as good as MJ. lol



anyway I guess I shouldn't say "modern mainstream" if you are going to associate eminem and outkast

with that term. 'new mainstream', though, basically 9/10 mainstream artists that are like 32 or

younger, seem to suck to me. Im wondering if you agree with that, or if not, if you can list 10

younger mainstream rappers that are good?



**respond to me here, Halfman:



http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19204270#post19204270

sup flem

Bye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BfyFkRfEg

yea okay i like this more than the cool

Yeah I thought that hard lmao

well it was easily his most impactful song from the last ten years or so. and i think it's great. otherwise i would have gone with Rock Bottom or Beautiful

I would maybe have used Sing for the Moment idk, I haven't looked at any of the links you guys have posted and not sure what kind of songs you're even going for when you say 'substantial' or w/e

Album Rating: 2.5

Stop turning this thread in a second good kid maad city thread.



Album is a jam, but I'm not to sure it warrants a 4.1 avg, it kinda drags at times imo.

YA BETTER WATCH THESE NIGGAS

Album Rating: 4.5

Really digging this so far. I mean dear god "Deliver" is fucking unreal. Maybe the best song he's done in

ages. "Chopper" too.

Album Rating: 5.0

I AIN'T ADDICTED TO SHIT! My WEED MAN ON MY SPEED DIAL!!

DELIVER