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KILL
December 18th 2013


81580 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

hey i dig like 5 metalcore records!

demigod!
December 18th 2013


49601 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

whats your fav













those who fear ??

KILL
December 18th 2013


81580 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

prob or fixation

FadedSun
December 18th 2013


3196 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

People need to stop reviewing this album already.

Artuma
December 18th 2013


32769 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

still haven't heard their debut, when forever comes crashing and no heroes. i have all of their other studio albums 4'd or 4.5'd

intotheshit
December 18th 2013


3637 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Is the reviewer stupid? If so, he has an excuse.

Necrotica
December 18th 2013


10693 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

m/

TheBarber
December 18th 2013


4130 Comments


Damn Artuma get on When Forever, it's as heavy and sick as this one (plus it's uber consistent), Lowest Common Denominator is also the eeriest Converge can get

MoosechriS
December 18th 2013


6353 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

But the problem does not lie within the lyrical content. The lyrical content is brilliant throughout the fourty-five minute run time of the album. Nor does it lie with the instrumental that accompanies it; rather, it's the hectic and at times incoherent way the songs are transmitted to the listener



the "incoherent" way in which the songs are delivered is designed to feel like the the emotional whirlwind that occupies the headspace of someone after a breakup. If the album was straight ahead and linear it wouldn't work half as well.

Artuma
December 18th 2013


32769 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Damn Artuma get on When Forever, it's as heavy and sick as this one (plus it's uber consistent), Lowest Common Denominator is also the eeriest Converge can get"



sweet, i was already going to check it next

JS19
December 18th 2013


7777 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It's nowhere near as good as this

DrMaximus
December 18th 2013


12807 Comments


When Forever is cool. No Heroes is meh.

demigod!
December 18th 2013


49601 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

wfcc kicks so much ass

Lambda
December 18th 2013


2654 Comments


Okay, here's some constructive criticism for your absolutely horrendous review.

"It's been said by many that 'Jane Doe' is a crowning achievement in the music industry, displaying passion and emotion in its lyrics."

Change 'it's' to it has. 'Crowning achievement in the music industry' is a bad way to word what I know you're trying to say. And your next sentence would imply that it's only considered such an achievement because of "passion and emotion in its lyrics," which is not the case. Many albums can boast this claim, but they aren't all 'crowning achievements of the music industry.' A crowning achievement implies something more. Beyond its lyrics, why is it so highly regarded? Or what is it about the lyrics, besides the passion and emotion, which has made the record so highly revered?

"The idea that Jane Doe, an unnamed man (or woman in this case)"

Jane Doe refers to an anonymous woman, not an anonymous man. Though I suppose there could be a man somewhere on the planet with the name Jane Doe, so I'll concede you that. But it's still a stupid sentence.

"...is one that many would be quick to associate themselves with, and be even quicker to defend the content within this record."

"quicker to defend the content within this record..." what? I assume you are suggesting that since many people can identify with a relationship ending that those same people thus defend this record. This is a flawed argument, and you've worded it badly (just like the rest of the review).

Lambda
December 18th 2013


2654 Comments


"But the problem does not lie within the lyrical content. The lyrical content is brilliant throughout the fourty-five minute run time of the album. Nor does it lie with the instrumental that accompanies it; rather, it's the hectic and at times incoherent way the songs are transmitted to the listener that may see many be ready to cut the music and listen to something more tolerable."

So the music and lyrics are good. The "hectic and at times incoherent way the songs are transmitted to the listener?" What, did your iPod run out of battery while you were listening to the album? Is your CD scratched? You can't be talking about the music, since you just said that isn't a problem. You also said the lyrics were "brilliant." Is it the combination of the two together which is the problem? Are the two together just so good that it becomes bad?

"The album is amazing, there is no question about that."

Then why did you give it a 2.5 (average?)

"But it's the way the album tries to bring across its emotion."

This album, just like any other, uses music and lyrics to bring across its emotion. You've said both were not problems, even calling the latter "brilliant."

"this is where the problem lies; it tries too hard to evoke emotion out of a specific listener when it should be catering to a larger audience."

Which listener? Jacob Bannon's dog? Because music doesn't cater to a large audience that makes it bad?

"The album relies too much on its lyrical content to convince the listener to associate with it, rather than having the listener actually understand it."

What? Are you saying that since the lyrics cannot be deciphered without a lyric sheet that it renders their excellence pointless? That is an interesting argument, and one I can understand (though disagree with), if it is indeed what you were trying to say.

Lambda
December 18th 2013


2654 Comments


"Even as I listen to 'Jane Doe' as I write this review, and having listened to it many times over, I struggle to make coherent sense out of the high-pitched scream that is emitted from Bannon's lungs without having to search the internet for not only the lyrics, but the meaning behind them."

Okay, that is your argument. So your problem is with the vocals themselves, and how they've squandered the excellent lyrics by being indecipherable.

The bottom line is that, although your argument has merit, you've worded it so awfully that it is A) incredibly difficult to decipher and B) makes for a terrible read. It's ironic, because the problem with your review is much the same problem you have with the album: the ideas behind it (or in the case of the album, the lyrics) are good, however you've expressed it so awfully in writing (for the album, the vocals) that it is rendered pointless. Better luck next time.

Cygnatti
December 18th 2013


36031 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"hey drubbi if you want some pop recs just give me a shout okay?"



can i has pls?

PunchforPunch
December 18th 2013


7085 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

great thread. brb gonna watch rain man.

Cygnatti
December 18th 2013


36031 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

okay, ignore me some moar pls ;_;

ti0n
December 18th 2013


1769 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

this review is so pointless tbh.

"Take away the scream, and the album is well-crafted."

its just a matter of how much you are able to EMBRACE the vocals as a conception of art. just like any other shit





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