still don't get this
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this is pretty much the greatest thread that has existed on sputnik, n1 downer
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Album Rating: 4.0
read the summary, thought you would be comparing this to joy division, was pleasantly surprised
i feel like i should like this record more than i do
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Album Rating: 3.9
Also, did you call these guys British?
i did, that's my error
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Album Rating: 4.0
liledman spittin truth
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Album Rating: 3.9
You fall into the same traps as the reviewers you allude to, by barely delving into any
discussion about the music itself, and distracting from the "material object in front of you" by
spending half of the review talking about another review or another album. If you had beefed up the
review with another paragraph on the actual music then perhaps the balance would be better, but as
it stands, you seem to refer to the music more than addressing it directly.
this is entirely fair. the piece turned more into a response than i perhaps originally intended,
while the music was great too. were this to be more the joint, broader cultural criticism/review I
initially intended, I'd have thrown more in on the music. As I was writing, it felt right to me to
lean on the former. I take your point, though.
The entire critical approach to "rock music" is called into question by your review, though
you do little more than perpetuate the problem by implying a non-intellectual, simplistic, "shit
slays, bro" approach is the romantic alternative for the genre we should just thrash about to. The
problem is in treating the music as worthy of heavy musical analysis, as well as socio-cultural
analysis; to treat it as music, not just cultural phenomena.
I wholeheartedly agree with the second point. I'm not saying socio-cultural analysis is out of place
in every rock album; indeed oftentimes it can be quite illuminating. But I'm not for applying socio-
cultural analysis where it isn't to be had, i.e. where it seems so clearly outside the scope of the
music. We gotta know when to turn it off. For example, you could use Celebration Rock to have a fine
conversation about our obsessions with nostalgia, but at the end of the day it has to come down to
"is this fun/enjoyable to listen to." So we land on the same point: to treat the music as music and
not just cultural phenomena
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Album Rating: 4.0
EC have you listened to any of Loke Rahbek's other projects
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Album Rating: 3.9
naw, should i?
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Album Rating: 4.0
if you like new industrial music / noise punk / dark synth pop then yeah
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Loke+Rahbek
i recommend
lust for youth
sexdrome
war
LR
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Atomic, I always picture you speaking with a slight southern gentlemen accent.
Haha, nah, I'm probably too low-toned East coast for that, but I'll take that as a compliment, for sure.
I've enjoyed reading what's been said in this thread so far. I think I've said all I've got to say on the topic, though, so I'll just keep knockin' back the popcorn if there's anything more.
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Criticism will always be the quantization of art. But yeah
i agree mostly.and also pitchfork sux.
From the first sentences of each paragraph in this tl,dr
review, i can definitely tell id find this review interesting
if i ever committed to reading it.
Heart
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"Oh, some of it, sure. But Iago is not gay and the strawberries on the handkerchief are not fruit-dipped dongs."
lol yes that is certainly true. That's a hilarious interpretation, although Iago being gay does change some things... (a tale of unrequited, interracial, homosexual loveeeee). Just kidding.
and damn liledman spitting truth
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Album Rating: 4.0
There is a lot more diversity and ferocity on this album than their previous one..while not as experimental as I would have liked it to be...probably my favorite punk album this year so far.
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Album Rating: 3.5
the fact that you would post a response to a review as a review is pretty fucked up considering that you're a staff member who should be writing about an album on its own merits rather than acting as a counterpoint to what some other fuck said about it.
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Album Rating: 3.9
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Staff Reviews
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You fucking fuck downer
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yeah what an asshole
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Album Rating: 3.5
agreed, let's get 'im
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Album Rating: 3.8
liledman makes good points i think
i agree that to treat an album as simply an object of cultural history detached from any aesthetic
import is Lamedog but i also urge against us becoming high schoolers who are all like "teacher shut
up theres no SYMBOLISM there" when that sort of base, instant-reaction-centric approach can divest a
work of its power in unexpected ways
it's cool, your review sorta sells it, but i'm almost inclined to side with ian cohen when the
apparent alternative to his approach is just like "guys this is really good" or "guys this slays"
limned with a few paragraphs about how ian cohen is lame and stuff--which, yeah, is slightly
hypocritical
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