Album Rating: 5.0

Agreed, I loved leaving meaning more than most and the Beggar was a great mix of seer darkness and dirge with the ethereal touches of leaving meaning.

Album Rating: 5.0

leaving meaning is underrated, I am still very puzzled by its lukewarm reception

it was the perfect choice for Gira to move forward after the trilogy

Album Rating: 4.0

Because some people act like the trilogy is the pinnacle of music, so it was 'disappointing.'

Album Rating: 5.0

In many ways I also think that about the trilogy, but you're right; leaving.meaning should be judged by its own merits.

Album Rating: 4.0

My opinion on this one has softened, but I still feel that it is more meandering and less refined than its follow ups. "The Seer Returns," "93 Ave. Blues" and "Apostate" are great, but this one feels more like a template for the others than a complete work (for me).