Album Rating: 4.0

It's all good brother. I've known a few people who back in the late 00's and early 10's would dismiss bands for being "too scene", and then later got over that whole thing and realized that they missed some quality stuff.

Album Rating: 4.0

this album rules. the ending breakdown to "for the likes of you" gets me fucking pumped every time

Haven't mowed a lawn in a while, but I should give this another listen

Album Rating: 4.0

The Vengeance lineup is getting back together

Album Rating: 4.0

i sleep

Album Rating: 4.0

I’m not hopeful, but I’m curious

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm hype. I had never even heard Vengeance before, as it's not on an album, and I wasn't aware that there was a point where Michael and Hance did vocals together.

Album Rating: 5.0

I listened to the reissued version of this record all day yesterday by accident. Hell, or High Water and If Not, For Ourselves are just perfect, I have to 5 this one.



I saw them regroup just as I was about to bump this thread. Haha I'm pretty excited honestly, but hopefully they won't make anything like Genesis or A Day To Remember again. Hance is quite great as well. heck, I'd actually like Tyler to come back.

Album Rating: 4.0

Doriano Magliano weeps

Album Rating: 5.0

he shoud make a Thats Outrageous! reunion.



woe's reunion could mean a new start to a new series of dramas

Album Rating: 4.0

"woe's reunion could mean a new start to a new series of dramas"



Even so, I hope they don't write an entire album about it like they did with Genesis. Although they definitely have some new fuel on Tyler, with the underage girl thing and whatnot, and the fact that Tyler essentially kicked Miahael from Issues.

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't really mind to have some tracks. lol. it was because of anger that the song Vengeance emerged. I think the failure of Genesis was because they didn't work on it. it had good melodies. so did that last EP.



Besides, Tyler deserves to be mocked. (as long as it turns out to be good eventually. As you know I actually admire Tyler's talents)

Album Rating: 5.0

Whatever they use, revenge, hate or taunt, I'll take them as long as they are fun songs. I miss the synth, breakdown, clean, unclean stuff. I love it being messy, reckless and attractive. wish they would have a serious attitude.

Album Rating: 3.0

Fuck Tyler Carter.



Unfortunately I have zero interest in new material from this band. This was a good project though.

Album Rating: 4.0

Agree fuck Tyler. I have a morbid curiosity about the new stuff. Honestly, as long as they have some good hooks, I am here for it

Album Rating: 3.5

man why does most shit in this genre from this era appeal to me so much?

take the kid out of the scene but the scene will always be in the kid i guess

Album Rating: 4.0

I just want Vengeance Pt 2



Talk all the shit about Tyler



Make it hype and angry and dumb as fuck

trying to get into this. I can't help but laugh at some of that sturgis-core production with all the glitchy chopped up vocals/screams, and over the top electronics. such a product of the time

Album Rating: 3.0

Bro that glitching trend in risecore was certainly something, it was unavoidable from Rise

Album Rating: 4.0

They have a new track out there, not gonna go digging for it but I'm sure it'll be on streaming soon



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