Album Rating: 3.5
This isn't important because Smile never actually happened
At least Smiley Smile has its own identity instead of riding the wave of an imaginary album that couldn't happen
Sure it might sound closer to what Smile would have sounded like but that doesn't necessarily make it better, it just makes it an example that proves that Brian Wilson wouldn't let it go, it's like blue balls on album form, touched up outtakes, whatever you wanna call it it's barely even the actual Beach Boys. It doesn't even have 60s production.
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Album Rating: 4.0
"This isn't important because Smile never actually happened"
that is the point. it never happened, but the potential was there and the album was practically almost done before Brian broke down and Van Dyke bailed
"that proves that Brian Wilson wouldn't let it go, it's like blue balls on album form, touched up outtakes, whatever you wanna call it it's barely even the actual Beach Boys."
because it's the work, along with Pet Sounds, that defined him and his entire career. Why wouldn't he let it go in the first place? It's better than fearing it and having regrets about it, you know, like he was before he redid it in 2004? It's something that needed to be done and it's more coherent than "touched up outtakes". And barely the Beach Boys? Are you kidding me?
"It doesn't even have 60s production."
are we even listening to the same album?
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Album Rating: 4.0
if you said this about the BWPS version, I'd get your point here but to dismiss this as "blue balls on album form" and saying it didn't need to exist is just asinine
You know how Blackstar worked a lot more with context? This is exactly the same.
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Album Rating: 4.0
"At least Smiley Smile has its own identity instead of riding the wave of an imaginary album that couldn't happen"
Smiley Smile did just that - rode the wave of an album that couldn't come to realization due to its creator's fragile mental state and the piss poor support from fellow band members. Smiley Smile is an exercise in futility, a clear example of a failed work and a mere counterfeit standing in the genuine original's place.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Honestly it has what Wilson brought to The Beach Boys, but that's really it
And yeah the production on it doesn't have that 60s charm at all, it's very clean and modern sounding
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Album Rating: 4.0
"it's very clean and modern sounding"
what is an analog to digital transfer
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Album Rating: 4.0
I sincerely don't get your whole thing with albums needing to sound dated or whatever, but the whole "charm" thing doesn't cut it, it doesn't improve the album a single bit.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Blackstar was a wonderfully proper send off of an albim that would have ruled even if it didn't have the perfect context (which is does)
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This compilation pretty much needs the context to even be worth bothering with
Imagine if this was like a 2000s Brian Wilson solo album only, everyone would probably 3.5 it
If Smile actually happened in the 60s and then he did this in the 2000s it'd probably get a ton of 2.5s
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Album Rating: 4.0
"This compilation pretty much needs the context to even be worth bothering with"
context adds to the album, but unlike Blackstar, isn't necessary to enjoy Smile.
Considering Brian remade it in 2004 and it has a 4, you're already wrong.
like i don't know what you're trying to prove here, but it's not working
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Album Rating: 3.5
I'm trying to prove that most fans of this album wouldn't care for it if they didn't know about the original Smile project in the 60s and that knowing about the original Smile project might even have caused people to discredit Smiley Smile
And that pretty much musically on its own this compilation sounds unfinished and overproduced and that it's probably not actually close enough to what Smile would have been like to pretend it is
It's very nice collection of outtakes, but in 2004 that's really all it could be
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Album Rating: 4.0
my dude, you underestimate how rabid hardcore Beach Boys fans could be
check the smiley smile forum, they have an entire section dedicated to Smile. Like, reconstructions, discussions, the whole lot. It's fucking incredible how dedicated some people can be to this.
Listen to 2004 remake, he did it from scratch with help from Van Dyke and has new bits recreated from fragments. A bit sterile, but it's worth the price of admission alone. It's aural proof of Brian Wilson finally regaining his confidence entirely and getting the long-hanging skeleton out of his closet.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Don't people relaize that Wilson wasn't even done writing songs from Smile when he had his breakdown?
And yeah I guess crazy fanboys would blow this album up
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Album Rating: 4.0
most people do know he was still writing, but the lack of support marked its end
there's a reason why the lo-fi trilogy happened (which did produce some of the most unique records in the BB canon) but they didn't truly recover until Sunflower.
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Album Rating: 3.5
I don't know I really love Smiley Smile
Moreso than any Beatles album and I love that it happened the way it did
Friends and Wild Honey are very patchy so I can understand the criticism for those two far more
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Album Rating: 4.0
I hold Friends in pretty high regard as the Boys really experimenting while Wild Honey was interesting but some of the tracks on there are pretty lackluster.
Plus, my main pet peeve was them recycling Smile stuff all the way up to Surf's Up. Aside from stuff like Mama Says, they picked out some of the really great stuff like Cool Cool Water (Sunflower) and of couse, Surf's Up (with Carl singing the first verse, Brian's original vocal on the second)
to be quite honest, anything the Beatles did don't stand up to stuff like Pet Sounds/Smile/Sunflower
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Album Rating: 3.5
Smile never happened though so you don't know that
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Album Rating: 4.0
Here's the thing, Ars
I do.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Brian Wilson doesn't even know that
Soooooo 💩
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Album Rating: 4.0
yeah eat me
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Album Rating: 3.5
I'm not a cannibal😷
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