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balcaen
December 10th 2011


3183 Comments


this as good as treny or
i'm a big fan of his

seedofnothing
December 10th 2011


3422 Comments


Treny is better, listen to it now

ShousoStrip
December 10th 2011


574 Comments


I must say I was slightly disappointed with it. Treny was much better, but this will probably grow to a 4.5 max.

Oathbreaker
December 10th 2011


1648 Comments


What's your number 1 riff?

Adash
December 10th 2011


1355 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

He's got a very specific, Platonic way of working with music where he tries to bring out the 'actual' musical reality from behind veils of 'apparent' distortion and fuzz. He fucking nails it here. Love the brass work especially



Zettel: Yeah, this is a review I really should have done but never got around to it. Thank goodness for other conscientious sputnikers

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
December 11th 2011


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Heh, so you would put emphasis on the orchestral side, whereas I place emphasis on the electronic side? Seems to be the main difference - is interesting.

AlexTM510
December 11th 2011


1471 Comments


review is solid.

listened to this album once and i need to spend more time with it.

Zion
December 28th 2011


812 Comments


Treny became an instant favorite of mine when I heard it. Getting this now.

liledman
December 30th 2011


3828 Comments


Does anyone else find it rather funny that it's through the avenue of electronic music that many break into classical? In terms of reputation, the two genres couldn't be more distant, but this recent movement of blending the two has shown that, in fact, classical music can be enhanced with an electronic influence. In the past few years we've been treated to many composers who toy with this balance between wires and strings,


its not really that funny considering the post-war avant garde of america and europe contributed immensely to the early days of electronic music. its not a recent movement at all, in the last 60 years plenty of 'classical' composers have been employing electronic sounds. musique concrete, electroacoustic music in its different forms, onyo etc, the use of tape... many revered classical composers who were alive through the middle period of the twentieth-century at least dabbled in 'electronic music'.

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
December 30th 2011


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I doubt that in the 1950's you had composers playing around with electronics to the same degree, but if you have any links it would definitely be interesting.



Also, was this blend you're talking about an actual blend of musical styles or just using electronics?





Adash
December 30th 2011


1355 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Lad you must know that the composer Edgard Varese was basically responsible for introducing electronic sounds into large classical compositions (Deserts), as well as crafting 'electronic' songs ala



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7AIiTeKBUc&feature=related

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
December 30th 2011


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

No, but there's no need to be patronising.



In any case, it's only recently where we've seen an abundance of this style in terms of it being pushed to the forefront. With the knowledge of what Varese achieved, I would have come at the review from a slightly different angle - but what I stated in it still stands.

seedofnothing
December 30th 2011


3422 Comments


Word.



Adash
December 30th 2011


1355 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Did I come off as patronising? I was looking for the more helpful with a hint of good hearted admonishment approach. But nevermind; I highly recommend you check out all of Varese's recordings (only 2cds worth) as well as Xenakis and Boulez. Stockhausen can be a bit much

seedofnothing
December 30th 2011


3422 Comments


Yeah.



StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
December 30th 2011


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's okay, I sometimes go for a slightly-critical-but-not-at-all-serious vibe and ultimately just come off as a prick.



I'll check them out, thanks for the recs.

liledman
December 31st 2011


3828 Comments


stockhausen is basically essential in this situation though. pierre schaeffer is somebody you should look into also.

as for what you mentioned earlier, of course the blend of styles was different as the styles of electronic music being employed today didnt exist back then, but the same experimentation did. the basic use of electronics was the important part though. what you were getting at is still valid, but i would suggest perhaps coming from a different angle.

liledman
January 1st 2012


3828 Comments


yeah on average though i prefer his orchestral and chamber works to his electronic stuff

Maniac!
April 4th 2012


28545 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This is fucking awesome

Maniac!
April 4th 2012


28545 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

any other artists like this? of this caliber, of course.



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