Rosetta A Determinism of Morality
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OllieS
August 30th 2011


2280 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

BetaAquilae, try calming down, then I would maybe understand your points better.



'Man, have you actually listened to the fucking band?' - by quoting me selectively here, and getting angry, you missed

the opportunity to define what you thought were 'drone' and 'ambient', which could have really helped the discussion

(about those aspects of Rosetta's sound). I still don't know what you think these terms mean - until I do, you saying

stuff like 'Rosetta are drone ffs!' doesn't tell me anything (and I genuinely want to know more/learn about this).



'Rosetta adds...space rock, shoegaze (the wall of sound created by the use of some pedals), and post-hardcore. Quit

letting that dumbass label narrow your mind.' - Don't get me wrong, I dislike genre labels for the same reason as you

do: they narrow your thinking about a band. However, this album (I don't know Rosetta's others, fyi) sounds like typical

Post-Metal (see Isis' 'Panopticon' for an example of what I mean) with the gradual build until the heavy climax formula.

Yes, 'Release' and 'Revolve' don't have that, but they still sound like they came from a Post-Metal album. As I said, the

only tracks which seem like a significant break are 'Ayil' and 'Blue Day...'.



You can say all this stuff like shoegaze and Post-Hardcore, but those are just superficial aspects of the sound - they

don't describe the genre at all (especially the Post-Hardcore label). Ftr, I didn't hear any Post-Hardcore besides some

vocals on 'Release', and tons of bands do the shoegaze-y layering (see Isis again for what I mean)). And regarding

Space Rock, nothing on this sounds like the Ozrics, but I'm open to hearing why you said that.

foxblood
August 30th 2011


11159 Comments


not quite as impressed as i was hoping by this, it's definitely really good but idk about 5/5 good

ah lol thank you Maniac!:]

Relinquished
August 30th 2011


48718 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"sup guys im super elite at post metal but my favorite band is rosetta?"



I remember that was my job.



"Yes, you heard me. Neurosis is great and all, but i hate Steve's voice with a passion."



faggot of the year

eternium
August 30th 2011


16358 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Most opinions don't make you deserve to be punched in the face.



That one does.

BetaAquilae
August 30th 2011


248 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Not a native english speaker, so please bear with me.



@ Ollies: I'm not the one who should tell you what ambient and drone are. If you were acquainted with these, you'd know what i'm talking about. Use google and listen to some bands (starting with Stars of the Lid, the guitarist's main influence). I'm not saying "Rosetta are drone", way to exagerate things. I think you are smart enough to see where i was going.



The heavy climax formula used by Rosetta in this in far less obvious than in prior albums. Go read some interviews, they admitted being a bit tired of the climax thing, so they wanted to shorten things a bit for a more aggressive and metal-y approach. The title track though clearly keeps the formula, i'll give you that. Structurally, i never said it was revolutionary stuff. But at least they're trying to change. Listen to their other albums to see my point, and splits with Balboa and Year of no Light. I love the climax formula, and if it's well executed, it's enough to catch my attention. Some of you are apparently jaded about this (not talking about you), saying it's been "overdone". Well, music doesn't always have to be groundbreaking to be good.



Anyway, i've actually known Isis way before i found about Rosetta. I love the band, but they clearly don't take from shoegaze as much. That's why i love Rosetta. In other bands this might just be a superficial aspect of the sound, but here it pretty much defines the music. I'm no musician, so it's hard to explain things from a technical point of view. But the particular distortion and reverb creates a particular atmosphere that just isn't in any Isis album. As for the post-hardcore reference, i think you should learn a bit about the genre. It's not limited to the modern stuff with clean whiny vocals, which i think you're linking to David's cleans in Release.



Tl;dr i love the way it sounds, and despite knowing the many other bands you guys are referring to, i think it sounds different.

BetaAquilae
August 30th 2011


248 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

At butthurt Neuro fans:



lol, get over it.



Inb4 Rosetta butthurt. I respect that some people don't like the band. I just can't stand the use of the word 'generic' to justify it.

Relinquished
August 30th 2011


48718 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

they're generic and I hate the guy's voice with a passion



with a passion









band sucks, you fanboy faggot

BetaAquilae
August 30th 2011


248 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

What are you, 12? This ain't 4chan, kid.

DarkNoctus
August 30th 2011


12200 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i love his voice :]

eternium
August 30th 2011


16358 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Rosetta is a good band but Neurosis is miles and miles times greater.



Seriously, how the fuck can anyone not appreciate Steve's or anyone else's vocals?

G3N3R1C
August 30th 2011


1945 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Inb4 Rosetta butthurt. I respect than some people don't like the band. I just can't stand the use of the word 'generic' to justify it.




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Aids
August 30th 2011


24509 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i love it when rasputin and ire go off on someone overrating a metal album (and that someone isn't me)





do u really




yes

BetaAquilae
August 30th 2011


248 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"how the fuck can anyone not appreciate Steve's or anyone else's vocals?"



I dunno, i just don't like it. Although i admit it's really unique, and that he is a fantastic musician.

Relinquished
August 30th 2011


48718 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"The sound is far more oriented drone/ambient than "other shit", which are more hardcore or doom

oriented. The guitarist relies heavily on effects, delays, and sometimes uses a violin bow. It creates

a wall of sound i don't find elsewhere."



I can tell you haven't heard much

Aids
August 30th 2011


24509 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

And Bj blows every drummer in "similar" bands out of the water.



And Bj blows every drummer




nice wording

xenocide.
August 30th 2011


1268 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Calm down people. Why build walls between Post-metal fans? I saw both Neurosis and Rosetta this year (the latter one twice) and enjoyed all those gigs. Love for one band shouldn't lead to hate for the other one.

BetaAquilae
August 30th 2011


248 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't hate any of the bands named here. Just sayin'.



@ aids: well, lol





Relinquished
August 30th 2011


48718 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

honestly I think Rosetta are good, they are great live. but to think they are unique because of the

things they have implemented is dumb



you say "The sound is far more oriented drone/ambient than "other shit", which are more hardcore or

doom oriented. The guitarist relies heavily on effects, delays, and sometimes uses a violin bow."



this shit has been done before many times, it doesn't make them unique, hell they're stuff isn't

that complex to play. they're good at what they do, but they are not far from the other "post-metal"

bands, they are no different from Mouth of the Architect or some unknown post-metal band.



"And Post-metal is a bullshit term. It meens that's it's just bands blending Post-rock and metal.

Rosetta adds ambient (yes), drone (yes), space rock, shoegaze (the wall of sound created by the use

of some pedals), and post-hardcore."



and it looks like you don't know what post-metal means. if you want to look at it that superficially

then go ahead. I give this band credit for being there before too many bands ripped of Neurosis,

Godflesh, Cult of Luna, Isis, and Breach. but they're not different anymore.

eternium
August 30th 2011


16358 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The guitarist just uses loops on top of loops on top of loops all the time so it sounds thick and droney. Not that it's a bad thing, it just isn't original.

BetaAquilae
August 30th 2011


248 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yet another victim of the classification of bands.



If you were a bit smarter, you'd notice plenty of differences. If you want bands that actually pretty much make the same music, compare CoL to Tephra or General Lee.



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