Scar Symmetry The Unseen Empire
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Motiv3
April 19th 2011


9109 Comments


'You indie guys sucks. At least more metal community sites like metal archieves can review music like this.'

I fucking lol'd.

OllieS
April 19th 2011


2280 Comments


'I love getting nagged because people disagree with me.

Alvestam was kicked out, it wasn't mutual.'

Out of interest, can I have a source/more info on him being kicked out?

'Metal archives is an lol website. Because to them apparently BTBAM isn't metal.'

Nor is PTH, or Misery Signals(!). I mean, how is this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unWRJ39-_co) not Metal.

Pankar95
April 19th 2011


175 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Crysis its funny that u accuse SS for being unoriginal while u have given the "new" Amon Amarth album a 3.5... You know what I mean.

FenixZero
April 19th 2011


396 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

SS is unoriginal and boring. Amon Amarth while every record is the same, is still awesome.

Pankar95
April 19th 2011


175 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

If in the place of Amon Amarth, in your sentence, u put "Scar Symmetry", and vice

versa, u will get,my opinion. So who wins??

Even if Amon Amarth was the most awsome band in history, nine albums of the

same would be boring. Let alone that they have the most boring growls of the

genre. Roberth Karlsson is much better, while not even coming close to Alvestam or

Akerfeldt. I have to admit though that some of their songs have killer melodies and

leads.

Crysis
Emeritus
April 19th 2011


17625 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The thing is that, like Fenix pointed out, Amon Amarth can be unoriginal and still write good songs. Scar Symmetry are unoriginal but also have completely lost their ability to write anything worthwhile.

XfingTheSullen
April 19th 2011


5231 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

12 Gauge was great, but not quite as good as The Black Waltz. Insomnium is just another melodeath band, THEY are the ones who're generic, not Scar Symmetry. Still like Insomnium, though, but heard only Across the Dark from them.

Crysis
Emeritus
April 19th 2011


17625 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Scar Symmetry is far more generic than Insomnium (who are still generic, yes).

R6Rider
April 19th 2011


5282 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

but heard only Across the Dark from them



that's their worst album just so you know

Crysis
Emeritus
April 19th 2011


17625 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

And their most generic by far.

XfingTheSullen
April 19th 2011


5231 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Scar Symmetry aren't generic - neither more than your average melodeath band nor at all. I've never heard a band who's even remotely similar sounding to Scar Symmetry, and even if someone tried to copy them (like Solution. 45), they've always failed. How's that generic?

XfingTheSullen
April 19th 2011


5231 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I mean that most melodeath is sad or depressing, with pianos and all that bullshit, while Scar Symmetry is the only melodeath that draws from the 80s' rock. Soilwork does that too, but they're no longer melodeath for all intents and purposes. And much shittier a band.



Speaking of which, I love how both Crysis and curseworship gave this album a 2 while giving The Panic Broadcast 3,5's :P

Metalstyles
April 19th 2011


8576 Comments


How does either of those bands draw inspiration from 80's rock from a musical standpoint besides, oh I don't know, using guitars?

Pankar95
April 19th 2011


175 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Personally, Scar Symmetry and old Soilwork are the only bands ive listened that sounded nothing like any other melodic death band ive checked, and believe me, there was a time 4-5 months ago when I checked any band name I came across. Even Dark tranquillitys albums from Damage Done and after, that have been universally praised, sound generic. Im sure all of u haters have rated at least one of these DT albums with a 4 or more, while u had all heard melodeath with piano and synth harmonies and powerchords with some chugging before. So it must be obvious that the 2 rating wasnt objective

Metalstyles
April 19th 2011


8576 Comments


Im sure all of u haters have rated at least one of these DT albums with a 4 or more, while u had all heard melodeath with piano and synth harmonies and powerchords with some chugging before.
Yeah but you see, just because it has been done before doesn't make anything generic by default. If it's done lazily, the quality is poor and there's no real energy behind the music, that's when it's generic. I'm not talking about this album in particular here because I haven't heard it, but Dark Matter Dimensions was generic as hell. Actually it was even worse, it flat out sucked.

XfingTheSullen
April 19th 2011


5231 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

@ Metalstyles



You're asking about the 80s inspirations of Scar Symmetry? Listen to songs like Obscure Alliance, Deviate from the Form, Ghost Prototype I, Trapezoid, Radiant Strain... typical heavy metal aesthetics.

Metalstyles
April 19th 2011


8576 Comments


Well but now you've changed what you originally said ;). I have no problem agreeing with you that Scar Symmetry (or at least their older stuff) has classic heavy metal aesthetics. What I didn't agree with you on is that they (or Soilwork for that matter) draw from 80's rock.

Crysis
Emeritus
April 19th 2011


17625 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

I love how both Crysis and curseworship gave this album a 2 while giving The Panic Broadcast

3,5's


Don't make me start pulling your ratings because they are a lot uglier than giving The Panic Broadcast a 3.5. I

reviewed it and justified my rating, so if that's not enough for you then there's really no help for you. Scar Symmetry

are so hopelessly lost in virtually every genre stereotype that they have no hope of escaping. Other bands definitely

fall into some of these same stereotypes, but aren't drowning in it like these guys are.



Even Dark tranquillitys albums from Damage Done and after, that have been universally praised, sound

generic.


Dark Tranquillity's sound between Damage Done, Character, Fiction and We Are The Void has notably changed (don't

give me that bullshit that "oh they use keys and power chords in all those albums therefore they are the same"

because that's a cheap cop out), so using that as a crutch to somehow externally judge my objectivity and ability to

judge an album in a genre that I know like the back of my hand is pretty fucking dumb.



I agree with what Metalstyles said above.

Hawks
April 19th 2011


87086 Comments


Even Dark tranquillitys albums from Damage Done and after, that have been universally praised, sound generic.

Are you on crack?

XfingTheSullen
April 19th 2011


5231 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

I'm very sorry but I fail to notice how Scar Symmetry have fallen into any single melodeath stereotype, let alone all of them.



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