Leonard Cohen
Songs of Love and Hate

SeaAnemone tries his hand at a classic...


an old favorite of mine. could use a more current review. and to refute rabbit's claim that I listen to no older music (I know it's not 60's but it's close).

i love 'joan of arc' need to listen to this again...it's been years

Album Rating: 4.5

Review needs less talking about you, but is otherwise sound.

lol don't listen to rabbit

good review, pos'd, but atavan's point is valid

I hardly ever complain about honest criticism buuuuuut...

I did use myself sparingly in the first and last paragraphs atavan, and I think it adds to the review seeing as it shows
the approach to listening and analyzing the album that I do now. I don't do it often in my reviews, but I think it adds
color and can be helpful in some situations. I've seen some of the best writers on the site use first person to their
advantage.

What do you think?

Regardless, thanks for reading and commenting on the writing

EDIT: PS if you're referring to that first paragraph that was there, that wasn't supposed to be there! an alternate
start that I didn't mean to copy/paste

Album Rating: 4.5

I hate personal pronouns in reviews, it makes me think the reviewer can't go for a couple of hundred words talking about something that isn't themselves without bringing themselves up. "Sure, this happened, but more about me!"



This would be a much better review if it had no "I, me, my"

i dont know, first person definitely has its place as long as the writer knows how to utilize it to his advantage...

I think it's like almost any other element in a review-- it can be a nice tool when used correctly.

I mean if you think it's used badly in a review, then please by all means tell me how/why : )

But don't you think it's a little dumb going around to every review with "I" in it just to complain about the general use of this?

Like I said, some of the best-written reviews on the site, I think, by some of the best writers, utilize first-person.

Don't wanna sound like a jerk, but yeah I disagree : /

something tells me i would really like this

Album Rating: 4.5

I don't think it's a nice tool at all. I tried it once and then decided it was stupid. The review is not about you, so don't talk about you. Simple as that.

yeah but it is about my analysis of the record.


and yeah Mike you'd reeeaaaallllyyy like this, really.

I hate personal pronouns in reviews, it makes me think the reviewer can't go for a couple of hundred words talking about something that isn't themselves without bringing themselves up. "Sure, this happened, but more about me!"

This would be a much better review if it had no "I, me, my"

Album Rating: 4.5

That goes without saying - you don't need to use personal pronouns to present an opinion in a review. It's as simple as that.

you don't need to use personal pronouns to present an opinion in a review

atavan you have this same complaint with the best of reviews i really think its time you learned that
its you, not them

the worst thing a reviewer can do is skew the first person (in an OPINION piece) with dumb shit like
"you" or "we" or, god forbid, "the listener" (everyone does this at some point including me its a hard
habit to break)

guys let's not let shit hit the fan here

Album Rating: 4.5

How does it accentuate the review? Explain that one. All it does is make the writer look less professional.

It adds a personable touch and makes the review more enjoyable to read.

Even in a formal essay you can use the first person guys.

Great review Sea. This is like on par with Elliott Smith for deep intimate saddness falling short of Tom Waits in said category.

@robertsona: i've used "the listener" before in my reviews and never really had any complaints