Album Rating: 5.0

More so than FII?

not to mention Hell's Kitchen, which is just gorgeous :')

Album Rating: 4.5

It is a shame Sherinian had to leave the band with the only DT LP he played on being mediocre by their standards.

Album Rating: 4.5

Probably wouldn't have been using the same keyboard synths for 10 odd yeas. It was great on six degrees and Metropolis but now I'm just begging for Rudess to try out something different

Album Rating: 5.0

Like maybe a harpsichord or rock organ?

I much prefer the sound on FII to anything after Scenes (yes even prefer it to Six Degrees) and I think despite 3 or 4 mediocre songs it's a really good album when compared to most of DT's other material besides the stretch from Images to Six Degrees.

Oh and New Millennium is actually a really good DT song, better than anything off Octavarium besides the title track that's for sure.

Album Rating: 4.5

JT that is criminal. Octavarium has flaws but FII has a sink hole that collapsed way back in 1997. I just find it so boring

I don't understand what people see in Octavarium, it's so boring and lifeless and about as soulless as music can possibly sound.

Album Rating: 4.5

Aside from four or five good/great songs FII is their most boring album discounting WD&DU. I'd even prefer to listen to SC since it reaches higher peaks of awesome

Album Rating: 2.0

All their albums post Scenes have a lot more boring than good moments anyway

Album Rating: 4.5

Half the songs on octavarium are good and Sacrificed Sons and t/t reach incredible highs. It's not perfect by any means but it blows FII in every aspect



FII is just bland in comparison to those highs

Couldn't disagree more. I would love nothing more than to have heard DT write more songs like Lines in the Sand and Trial of Tears, those songs had so much more "feeling" in them than anything post-Scenes. A big chunk of FII just sounds so much more appealing to me than most of the material that came after (excluding Scenes).

Album Rating: 4.5

Most of Octavarium is pretty boring too, even the first half of the godly T/T. Panic Attack has balls of steel and Sacrificed Sons has some good moments, other than that meh. These Walls is cool and Root of All Evil is pretty good I guess

Album Rating: 4.5

"feeling post scenes?"



About to crash (resprise) ... those last 2 minutes

Endless Sacrifice

The Best of Times



and the list goes on



But if you're talking about doing something different then yes. YES. They need to do something which isn't ADTOE to their crappy s/t now. I'm willing to accept anything at this point

Those songs I mentioned (along with many other songs on FII) just feel so much more organic (for want of a better word) than most of their post scenes material. The feeling even in those instances you just mentioned is delivered through such clinical sounding music that it kinda takes away from it.

The solo in The Best of Times is excellent though and one of the best and most emotional solos Petrucci has ever done.

Album Rating: 4.5

Oh right actually yeah that makes more sense and I can see where you're coming from. Well I agree that most of the content on the past 4 albums are pretty plastic but i dunno



Just can't seem to get properly into FII

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I'm pretty sure there are better prog-metal bands out there anyway. Too bad I'm no prog-metal guru.

lol in what way was that relevant to what we were discussing?