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somberlain
January 30th 2010


2134 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"however, you mean make a RACKET, not a racquet, they're not playing tennis "



haha, thx ReturntoRock dunno how that happened



where does Beherit rank among first real BM bands?

Crysis
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


17626 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

6 years after Bathory, they formed in 1989, so they are a bit later to the party.

somberlain
January 30th 2010


2134 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

but as far the 2nd wave ie Mayhem, Darkthone, Emperor?

Crysis
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


17626 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

They fit into the second-wave period but their origin (Finland) and their sound really doesn't match second-wave. I mean, they sound nothing like Darkthrone or Mayhem or Burzum.

somberlain
January 30th 2010


2134 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah but unlike Venom there is no doubt that Beherit is a "true" BM band and the fact that they're from Finland earns them points for originality, it means that they weren't just copying bands that they had a friendship with like Mayhem, Darkthrone, Burzum

Crysis
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


17626 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Well take a look at Blasphemy, one of the very first bm bands and they are from Canada. Word spreads quickly in the underground, that's for sure.

somberlain
January 30th 2010


2134 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

well I should've guessed you felt that way, remember I said you beat me to the Drawing Down the Moon review? I was going to mention their importance in BM as far as influence, you didn't do that and now I know why.

no offense btw, it was a great review but I thought you would give them a little more credit for being one of the 1st BM bands

BallsToTheWall
January 30th 2010


51218 Comments


Supposedly the Norwegian and Swedish black metal scenes hated each other. I guess they like Finlan because they are pussies and no threat?

XulOnerom
January 30th 2010


1818 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

All I know is that black metal musicians hated death metal. I remember Euronymous talking shit about Deicide, Emtombed and Napalm Death in many interviews

Crysis
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


17626 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I guess they like Finlan because they are pussies and no threat?


Everyone hated Beherit. Someone actually made a band named "Fuck Beherit"



you would give them a little more credit for being one of the 1st BM bands


I would've if they were formed a bit earlier. They formed in 1989 and didn't release anything until 1990, by which time the second wave was gaining momentum. I hesitate to call any second-wave bm band "one of the first". But hey, opinions are opinions.

BallsToTheWall
January 30th 2010


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Lol at all this unjustified hate, jealousy, animosity whatever the fuck you call it between the leagues of scandinavia and Florida.

somberlain
January 30th 2010


2134 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

fair enough Crysis

btw about this death/black rivalry, Mayhem and Darkthrone were more death than black early on

Crysis
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


17626 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Lol at all this unjustified hate, jealousy, animosity whatever the fuck you call it between the leagues of scandinavia and Florida.




Well us Americans are mostly egotistical pricks so it comes as no surprise they hated us.

XulOnerom
January 30th 2010


1818 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

They wanted to be grim and evil, and hating everything is pretty grim and evil

Crysis
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


17626 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah that works too

BallsToTheWall
January 30th 2010


51218 Comments


T-R-O-O- K-V-L-T

TheSpirit
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


30304 Comments


The Black Metallers hated death metal, but they liked Morbid Angel because of their satanic based lyrics.

BallsToTheWall
January 30th 2010


51218 Comments


And then there was Necrophobic right in the middle, probaly getting ignored by the elitists.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
January 30th 2010


30304 Comments


Fuck the elitists, Necrophobic is good shit

somberlain
January 30th 2010


2134 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

yeah Necrophobic is great, ima review some of their stuff soon



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