Eh, I don't think these guys ever had the best production. Hopefully, the new one might change that.

Album Rating: 4.5

"Ouch, that blows."



Yeah it does but I have a feeling it's going to end up alright

Album Rating: 4.5

"Eh, I don't think these guys ever had the best production. Hopefully, the new one might change that."



Townsend's work on Undoing Ruin and Deliver Us suited them pretty nicely imo. I even think the production on the s/t was pretty solid for the most part.

UR and DU are amazing metalcore albums, but I just feel like they sound way too dark and scooped. Townsend is a great producer and he can certainly pull off a good metalcore sound (i.e. Misery Signal's Controller and various Becoming the Archetype albums) but on those 2 albums I just don't like the sound.

But I do like the way their self titled album sounds. It's quite modern sounding and it fits well.

Album Rating: 4.5

new album is unbelievable, I might like it more than this tbh

Album Rating: 4.0

new ones got norris on it and 4.2 avg i'll listen tomorrow but man am I precumming

Album Rating: 4.5

Do people not consider this a genre staple?

Album Rating: 4.5

Uhh the one before it definitely. This was just a more melodic more commercial follow-up

Album Rating: 5.0

Both of them are genre staples.

Album Rating: 4.5

Idk man, this album doesn't have a single bad song and it's just brimming with excellent guitar work.



I've also always been a fan of the 'screaming in a melody' thing. How do they do that?

Album Rating: 4.5

This album doesn't have a single bad song and it's just brimming with excellent guitar work [2]

Album Rating: 4.0

Melodic screaming is something I've ever been able to do unless I'm like whisper shouting which is not what they do

Album Rating: 4.5

I always just called it pitch screaming, but melodic screaming kinda makes more sense

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah but HOW the fuck

Album Rating: 4.0

Just hit a note clean and gradually add more dirt to it. Just make sure it doesn't hurt at any point. On the way to a full on scream you'll find John Henry's pitch screaming and Phil Anselmo's toolbox.

Album Rating: 4.0

Also, I consider UR a better album than this, but UR doesn't have fucking Doomsayer. That verse riff is nasty.

Album Rating: 4.5

you should comment more often.

Album Rating: 4.0

o.o did I break an unspoken rule? Are you even talking to me?

Album Rating: 4.5

lol I just liked what you said about UR. no one else hardly ever agrees with me that UR is more enjoyable

Album Rating: 4.0

OH well yeah. Its probably just whichever one you discover first, I guess. Friends of mine swear by hidden hands but I prefer UR.



Remember how it was marketed? There was a sticker on the cover, and all the magazine press, that said "The Best Album of the Decade!". I was like...oh shit I gotta have it! Thats literally why I bought it. Bold AF and certainly not true, but I mean...it sold me...