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@scoot

koi can simultaneously be better and also duller than gore



gore is that genius kid who would've prospectively gone on to cure cancer had he not been run over by a drunkard (and that hypothetical future lives on in our hearts)





@wild

if music is just another form of "my team v. your team" tribalism to you, then you don't actually like sounds

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Nope, it’s shite Wild pal

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yeah but you’re british

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"gore is that genius kid who would've prospectively gone on to cure cancer had he not been run over by a drunkard"



lmao

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that actually is a very solid conclusion to arrive at

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zak how many folks in the UK gave a toss about this when it dropped (genuinely curious)? can't imagine this band had a huge an audience here outside of greasy teens

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I’m genuinely curious about that too.

johnny i thought you were the brit of all brits shouldnt you know this

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@Johnny/anyone curious - it reviewed very well. I think it was seen as something of an art-y shift from their prior stuff/nu-metal.

As I said earlier, I was yet to be convinced, but yeah, I don't think they'd moved yet from a "greasy teen" fanbase.

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Pretty good nu metal band

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am offended at the greasy teen accusation. some of us are greasy middle-age now

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for the record i am so dry mosquitos and lice don't even recognize i'm alive and avoid me

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That’s truly my goal in life. I wanna look like a fucking cadaver

greaselords unite

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Lol a bit late but @wildcard I was being a bit hyperbolic, I'd still take like, Blind by Korn if we're counting Around the Fur as a nu-metal album then for sure My Own Summer and Shut Up And Drive.

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shut up and drive drive drive drive

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@John



A mate did have the debut album but the band were relatively underground then. I didn’t think much of it, can’t really remember hearing it to be honest.



This was the bands breakthrough here in the UK but lumped in with the nu-metal stuff of which Limp Bizcuit and Papa Roach were big and everything else just sort of drifted by. The main alternative bands around the time were At The Drive In and Queens of the Stone Age.



Change (House of Flies) was played a lot on MTV and was/still is a bloody good song. There was more to Deftones and there was definitely a wider appreciation for them but on the whole people didn’t really give a fuck.



The turning point was happening where music was being subsumed into the internet. Linkin Park, MCR and Muse stood out. All were complete shite.

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White Men

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"There was more to Deftones and there was definitely a wider appreciation for them but on the whole people didn’t really give a fuck."

By the time their s/t album came out (after this), they cemented a press rep as "the metal Radiohead". That's when they pretty much shed their nu-metal ties.

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Just when you thought hawks was out he pulls you back in