This album rules

Yeah this album fucking slaps.

One of my favourite albums as a teen.

This one and the last one they put out are pretty good. Shame about all the other shit surrounding them now.

Thefakesoundofprogress was probably my favorite alt/nu metal album ever and I listened to it a ton in a high school but the whole thing with Ian is super fucked up. Any time I hear his voice I just think about this stuff he did and I’m revolted, can’t listen to the band at all anymore

I don't say this about many people, but I hope the fucker dies soon so that people can go back to enjoying this band's music and supporting his bandmates.

Fake Sound was by far my favorite but this one is really good too. haven't listened in years tho.

He was formally charged, yeah?

He was convicted dude. Serving a 35 year sentence or something.

May he rot then. I feel like so many of these allegations never go anywhere.

Album Rating: 3.5

Unless I am misremembering some of the details of what he did (and/or was going to do), 35 years doesn't seem like enough

This cannot be entertained. Bloke is a massive cunt.

Well yes unfortunately European criminal law is fucking ridiculous.

Max sentence of 25 years in my country. Disgusting.

Album Rating: 3.0

"if you are against something morally and some artist you like does that...you're hypocrite"



This is objectively false.



"Morality is clear and cut"



Morality is one of the most subjective things ever.

That was a quick, resolute demolition that I thank you for.

I remember seeing these guys steal the show at Ozzfest '02 at like 1030 in the morning, and driving around pumping fake sound feeling like it was just the dopest shit around.

I still pine for a couple of those songs. It honestly is a hard thing to reconcile.

I'm just thankful I always postponed getting into their discography. Some of their singles sounded fun at the time I guess but nothing ever hooked younger me. And I can separate art from the artist easily but with this band it would have been impossible; I don't think there are things as disturbing as what came out from this singer in the industry.

lol

alright chef that's enough copypasta for one day

Oh fucking hell, why was this bumped…

I haven't listened to pretty much any other their stuff since it all came out. Usually I'm all about "separate the art from the artist" but this one hits different for me.

I don't condemn anyone that still enjoys their music though.

My cousin loved these guys back in the day and had a massive thing for the vocalist, then when the news dropped I just remember her bursting into tears.

At least the other members formed something new and put the past behind them.