Album Rating: 4.5

Excuse me

Album Rating: 4.5

Also holy shit I need to listen to Spirit of Eden again. Been way too long

Album Rating: 4.5

this/SoE were only labeled post-rock retroactively because they influenced some actual post-rock artists and because the term is vague enough

most reviewers at the time avoided categorising this altogether

when tasked with describing their music, the label manager chose to compare it to acid house

Album Rating: 4.5

poor mark hollis is forever doomed to be lumped into the same category as mogwai, explosions in the sky, world's end girlfriend and other cheesy wallpaper music for rich kids to smoke weed to

Album Rating: 5.0

what a terrible fate

Album Rating: 4.5

sm0k

Album Rating: 5.0

just discovered "post-rock" not sure what to make of this

Album Rating: 5.0

They way Hollis used the guitar here was undoubtedly extremely influential on post-rock. Imo post-rock is (or should be) more a descriptor or attitude toward composition than an actual genre, and taking it that way, this album and SoE (it to a lesser extent) definitely fit the descriptor.

Album Rating: 5.0

"poor mark hollis is forever doomed to be lumped into the same category as mogwai, explosions in the sky, world's end girlfriend"

Yes but also Pram, A.R Kane, Disco Inferno, Bark Psychosis, Cul De Sac, Labradford, Tortoise, Slint, Dirty Three, Gastr del Sol, Rachel's, O'Rang, Yume Bitsu, Jessamine and Magnog.

Post-rock was an interesting mix of experimental bands in the 90s. They were only really connected by their interests in Krautrock, Jazz, Ambient and Hip Hop. Not Mark Hollis' guitar...

Album Rating: 5.0

I definitely need to dig more into that experimental 90s post-rock stuff, I’m very much a novice in the genre but even so it holds some of my favorite albums.

Album Rating: 5.0

'90s post-rock, and some early 00s, is where it's at.

Album Rating: 4.5

"Imo post-rock is (or should be) more a descriptor or attitude toward composition than an actual genre"

Yes, this exactly.

It's also not surprising that categorizing an artist into a genre means that they are lumped into the same category as a lot of uninspired artists. Because every genre consists mostly of uninspired artists. So that "poor Mark Hollis forever doomed blah" talk doesn't make much sense. Would have been the same with every other genre.

Album Rating: 5.0

Are genres not just attitudes towards composition?

People should use them as such at least.

Album Rating: 5.0

The definition of post-rock might be similar to the phrase "extreme metal" in that it's an umbrella term, except post-rock doesn't have all the subgenres that metal does to distinguish further. An album like Spiderland is very different from a Sigur Ros album, but they're both technically "post-rock."

Album Rating: 4.5

"Are genres not just attitudes towards composition?"



That would technically mean that all death metal (etc) bands have the same attitude, which isn't really true. I think it's more superficial, more about textures than composition, like a shoegaze style song being immediately recognizable in how the guitar sounds ... Although it's different for some genre descriptions, like anything post and progressive.

Album Rating: 5.0

The Saints, Ramones and Sex Pistols are all punk rock and are very different. They are as close as slint are to Sigur Ros.

You can pick any genre and find this.

Album Rating: 5.0

"all death metal (etc) bands have the same attitude, which isn't really true."

It isn't exactly true for other genres either. Just a trend across the majority of artists who fall within the category. All genres are broad, but Metal is an extremely broad genre. There wouldn't be a need to define a billion sub genres if it wasn't.

Album Rating: 5.0

Post-rock doesn't have a solid definition and there are barely any subgenres. Punk rock has specific names for the development of the genre like post-punk, post-punk revival, new wave, etc. as it evolved and blended with other genres as well. Granted punk and metal are older and have way more bands and popularity than post-rock.

We should make talkcore, post-math and crescendocore subgenres.