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Phil
June 10th 2007


1473 Comments


Because Opeth is godly, duh.

Altmer
June 10th 2007


5711 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah but dream theater would always be a wannabe ;(

kalkal50
June 10th 2007


2386 Comments


i can't find any spice in dream theater

XSebbyMcMuffinX
June 10th 2007


490 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

A sample of Mikael Akerfeldt's voice is in Repentance. Mike Portnoy was going to start a project w/ Steven and Mikael. I thought that Mikael only did the light solo and some vocal harmonies.

I honestly don't see how they sound like Opeth in any spot on the cd. The solo in Repentance could easily be inspired by something completely different, I just think ppl are making these accusations b/c, look at the bands they say DT are plagiarizing; They're pretty much the best bands that're really cooking nowadays. But if there's another band that did something closer to what DT made before PT and Opeth did these things (b/c we know they weren't doing their current style 10 years ago), nobody would be saying anything.

So the way I see it, Opeth and PT (and Metallica, apparently) fanboys are accusing DT of stealing b/c they're putting their own fav bands on a pedestal.

Altmer
June 10th 2007


5711 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i'm definitely not a metallica fanboy, dt is plain ripping off, and you need to listen to opeth more if you don't see the similarity. it's really, really similar. i dislike it. plus it's just a snoozefest.

Confessed2005
June 11th 2007


5561 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I really must check this out soon and decided if it is a a so called...



snoozefest.

XSebbyMcMuffinX
June 12th 2007


490 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

But Metallica fanboys are doing what I said they were doing.

If you really think I'm wrong, then just point out spots or concepts in songs by both artists and if they're similar enough, I'll agree. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just waiting for you to prove you're not.

Btw, I didn't neg. And I am very fond of Opeth and even did piano versions of Face of Melinda, For Absent Friends, and Weakness.

In Repentance, Rudess uses the same string sound as on Damnation at one spot. That's too small to be a rip-off so please help me expand on that.

Altmer
June 12th 2007


5711 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

2:46 in Forsaken. Gogogo Evanescence line. (The song escapes me, but it is a song off Fallen.)



Intro to Prophets of War is too similar to Take a Bow.



Dark Eternal Night riff is very similar to Walk riff.



Constant Motion vocals and riffs are Metallica and Anthrax, hardcore.



Repentance guitar solo is an Opeth guitar solo. The whole background thing is something DT doesn't do, it sounds like Damnation all the time.



the other songs aren't ripoffs but just bloated.





XSebbyMcMuffinX
June 13th 2007


490 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I don't see how Walk and TDEN are similar at all. Not notes, rhythm, structure, and hardly feel either, in any part of either song. Only similarity noticable right off the bat is they can both be considered badass and/or heavy.

The riff in CM before the first vocals come in is a mix of pulled-off and hammered-on fourths, which are pretty common in thrash metal. The other notes in the riff (every fourth measure) aren't. A riff in the second verse takes a small idea from the second verse in Fatal Tragedy. The vocal style may be similar, but what rhythms or melodies are they ripping off?

What Opeth guitar solo?

What Evanescence song? Please? lol

Others bloated, pretty much, but I don't mind too much.

Knocked down rating b/c they're trying to do too many things at once on this record, and some stuff is just bland when it could've been better. They need a new producer or something. And not Rick Rubin, damnit, I haven't been too impressed w/ him lately.

Altmer
June 14th 2007


5711 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I can't pinpoint a specific song, but it is definitely a Damnation-esque guitar solo, something that would fit perfectly on windowpane.



Rhythms. nothing. they just sound like Metallica, doesn't mean they have to have the same riff. it's just too close for me to be comfortable.

Pebster49
June 15th 2007


3023 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Ya, this album doesn't sound like Opeth, Metallica(wtf), PT, or Evanecence(wtf again). People are stupid, Metallica fans should look at them selves and say that Metallica is trying to rip off all those Nu-Metal bands, but there music blows now anyways

MavrikGandalf
June 20th 2007


5 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Meh, not really well written. A good rant, but it should go on a forum.



Noah

botb
June 21st 2007


17797 Comments


yeah, altmer, dt takes many influences and their past albums to add that kind of deja vu feel to their material. i don't think you really get them very much.

Altmer
June 22nd 2007


5711 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

dude i have all their stuff and completely love some of their albums, but this isn't deja vu... this is ripping off.



i just totally don't like this album's mentality.

IvortheEngineDriver
August 11th 2007


164 Comments


I like this review man...its pretty much how I felt and I love DT. I think its better than Octavarium (which I thought was really dissapointing except for the title track). I think they were best with Kevin Moore (IaW and Awake). But the only songs I find myself listening to the most is Constant Motion and TDEN. Forsaken isn't BAD, but it isn't great...IMO

Good review though man

Merkaba33
August 11th 2007


703 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Wow i agreed with everything you said there enginedriver. that's twice.



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