Album Rating: 4.0
Something different? She saw Avril, got Avril's team and told them to turn her into Avril.
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Album Rating: 3.0
Something different for her*
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Album Rating: 4.0
Becoming a pathetic clone of someone else in a transparent attempt to get rich doesn't really translate as artistic growth to me
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I don't begrudge Liz her attempts at mainstream success, but what it resulted in was extremely mediocre. I don't think it's without merit or charm (Why Can't I is actually really endearing) but in the long run it definitely did more harm to her career.
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Album Rating: 4.0
I just don't think it sounds like the same person made that record - like I cannot see ANY common thread AT ALL. It's pathetic lyrically, nothing on that album is endearing to me. Disclosure, I don't like the Avril sound.
To be fair, Liz sold 400000 copies of that album, so I guess someone liked it.
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I don't like that album or Avril either but I think pathetic is a bit strong, and I don't think it's too far a cry from some of the songs on Whip Smart and Whitechocolatespaceegg in terms of songwriting. Give some of the hookier songs on those albums the Matrix production treatment and I think they'd fit in pretty well on her self titled.
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Album Rating: 4.0
@fogza: Yeah, I might be a bit biased. Let Go is still one of my favorite early 2000s pop albums, so I’m usually all for anything in that vein
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Album Rating: 4.0
But I’m also approaching this as someone who doesn’t think this album is the genre-defining classic it’s often heralded as
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Maybe this is a victim of the Seinfeld effect. I still think it sounds leagues above what her contemporaries were doing at the time and it's a super influential album.
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Album Rating: 4.0
It’s a weird situation for me, because I love a ton of female indie singer-songwriters who have all made their mark on music. But this just sounds like another alternative rock record... granted it’s a great one, but it sounds kinda dated and similar to a lot of other music being made at the time. To me, at least
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Album Rating: 4.0
I dunno, I think this is a cut above the rest, and still holds up. The lyrics are great, I love the concept of it as an reply to Exile on Main St. It sounds like a slightly dirty low fi rock record, and it's not angsty in the same way as lots of 90's stuff was - more straight ahead and pragmatic.
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Album Rating: 4.0
I guess I’m referring to all the 5/5s and insane accolades more than anything else. As I said, the album’s incredibly solid... but Rolling Stone putting it at #56 in their best albums of all time is fucking ridiculous to me
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Album Rating: 4.0
Lol, I would guess every user on this site would look at the Rolling Stone list of anything and go "pfffft" at any number of records on it
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Album Rating: 4.0
"I don't like that album or Avril either but I think pathetic is a bit strong, and I don't think it's too far a cry from some of the songs on Whip Smart and Whitechocolatespaceegg in terms of songwriting"
Ok, I had a flip through it - I stand by it that the lyrics are a drop in quality across the board, but there are a few songs that share the same DNA with older material music wise, I can't deny it. It's odd that you brought up 'Why can't I' though, because I think that's one of the worst songs.
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Album Rating: 3.0
I'm just glad that Liz Phair is getting some actual discussion this site.
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Album Rating: 4.0
I never noticed that but yeah this has 200 ratings and 4 pages of discussion, like wtf
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Album Rating: 3.0
Not to mention that this is the only Liz Phair album that has a review, which is kinda wild.
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Album Rating: 4.0
At least it has 2 though, right?
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Album Rating: 3.0
Lol, I just looked at that other review and it only has one comment, that poor guy.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Yeah, and it's him like doing disclaimers. We've got a contributor on this thread, maybe Divergent should give the contentious self-titled a review.
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