Album Rating: 5.0

Melonfart gets mad at new user for stealing his shtick

Love it

I have well founded, thought out reasons to explain why the shit I call trash, is trash. unfortunately the friend here thinks it's funny to just "trash xd" us to death

Album Rating: 4.5

Lol to be fair you're right

Album Rating: 1.0

Sonically, this is about as insipid as it gets. I have no idea why, of all unheard-of, generic third-wave US emo acts, these guys were the ones to make it through (mind you, few people outside the US give a fuck, unsurprisingly). Lyrics and vocal performance alone can't carry an album that has nothing instrumentally to offer besides generic emotive riffs and fairly underwhelming drum parts. But I guess people whose tastes never venture beyond anything simplistic or released before 2009 and who get dripping wet over a tentatively written wonder years song would go for something easy to digest to accommodate said tastes. And that's okay, nothing wrong with that.

Album Rating: 4.5

"But I guess people whose tastes never venture beyond anything simplistic or released before 2009"



Lol you're a caricature at this point

Album Rating: 1.0

Yeah, pretty much



That was mainly directed at torts, by the way

Album Rating: 4.0

but what if i told you i enjoyed this *as well as* (some) music before 2009?

Album Rating: 1.0

Yes, but you are not one of those crazy people who think that this is the greatest thing ever

Album Rating: 4.0

fair enough haha

Album Rating: 5.0

"Lyrics and vocal performance alone can't carry an album that has nothing instrumentally to offer besides generic emotive riffs and fairly underwhelming drum parts"

this feels like the not-technical-so-therefore-not-good fallacy. sometimes less is more. also, you have Black Mile to the Surface at a 5...can you really tell me that your description of this album doesn't work for that album at all? generic emotive riffs and underwhelming drumming? you gotta at least be consistent

Album Rating: 1.0

Because A Black Mile is seeping with great atmosphere? Because the song progression is out of this world throughout the entire record? And when exactly did I say that this record requires greater technicality from the band members? It's just dull, tired, rehashed and unmemorable.

Album Rating: 5.0

"seeping with great atmosphere" everyone who enjoys this Hotelier album would say that as well. You just aren't seeing it for some reason. It's raw, emotional, unrestrained, nostalgic. The atmosphere that ties every track together is introduced immediately with the opening accordion in the first song.

Album Rating: 1.0

Is this one of your first emo albums?

Album Rating: 5.0

I won't argue this is the greatest thing ever. For myself personally, this is an intimate album. Originally I gave this like a 3.5? I thought this was almost as generic as emo gets. But it's really grown on me, & the themes and story of this album hit too close to home in a way no other album has. I think Pika has a point on the lyrical content being what people harp on too much rather than the composition of music (I'm one of those who thinks the lyrics are spectacular and raw af) - & they're really breaking 0 ground in the composition department. But it's bc of this this album is so nostalgic for me. It's the emo album I needed to hear 10 years before it came out - when I actually was an "emo." To me, this is the greatest 100% derivitive album I've become intimate with... but... that's just like my opinion

Album Rating: 1.0

See, Tb, this is exactly what I'm getting at. If this was released ten years ago, people like me would probably dig it. But unfortunately, I've already heard Braid, Texas is the Reason, Mineral, early Thursday, The Get Up Kids, etc. so this does nothing new in my books. I can see why people would love this if this was a starting point for them though.

Album Rating: 5.0

"Is this one of your first emo albums?"

not even close. and sure I get what you're saying, but something doesn't have to be groundbreaking to be good. it's about the execution, not how original of an idea it is. both are great, but both are not necessarily needed in order for something to be great.

Album Rating: 4.5

"Lyrics and vocal performance alone can't carry an album"



yeah they can

Album Rating: 1.0

I agree with you, butt, but if it seems all too familiar, it begins to feel like a cheap imitation.

Album Rating: 1.0

Emo is not exactly a subgenre known for great diversity (if we are not counting skramz, but that's a whole different beast at this point)

Album Rating: 5.0

personally I thought State Faults was pretty derivative, with occasionally bad and/or obnoxious lyrics, but I don't think it's terrible for that reason. I can still admire the good parts of it.



which makes it weird to me that you can't at least give this like a 2 for having genuine and well-written lyrics lol. not that I actually care but still