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Demon of the Fall
July 24th 2017


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I certainly agree with the notion that this is the weakest of their 'metal albums' but I'll probably change my mind next week... maybe.

MO
July 24th 2017


24249 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

by the pain is so damn underrated

MO
July 24th 2017


24249 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'M STILL BENEATH IN THE SOIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

BigPleb
July 24th 2017


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Nice to see this on the front page mang.

Demon of the Fall
July 24th 2017


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Some 'newpeth' fan (i.e. me) keeps bumping them. Got my ticket for Manchester, still no idea of logistics but trains are running late so if I end up back home around 2am then it'll have to do. Not missing this.

DominionMM1
July 24th 2017


21559 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

found the 2004 koch vinyl pressing of this a few months ago. its always awesome when you randomly find a record at the local shop that you've been actively searching out.

Space Jester
July 25th 2017


11561 Comments


This has always been my favorite Opeth

DominionMM1
July 25th 2017


21559 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

think of the album as a sandwich: t/t, fair judgment, absent friends, and masters are like delicious meats, cheeses, and veggies, while wreath and by the pain are like stale bread





Space Jester
July 25th 2017


11561 Comments


Then remastered compilation with this and Damnation is perfect


Space Jester
July 25th 2017


11561 Comments


Agreed but then the label would've made less money!

Demon of the Fall
July 25th 2017


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Are the re-masters better then guys? I've only heard the original recordings.

bloc
July 25th 2017


70880 Comments


When it comes to metal, always avoid remasters (for the most part)

Ocean of Noise
July 25th 2017


11368 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

but bloc the remasters of this and Damnation are done by Steven Wilson and are therefore good

KjSwantko
July 25th 2017


12568 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

That opening riff to Master's Apprentices...m/

bloc
July 25th 2017


70880 Comments


I don't want that ipod hating muppet touching my shit

Demon of the Fall
July 25th 2017


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

'When it comes to metal, always avoid remasters'

What's your reasoning behind this? I'm curious. Surely there are plenty of exceptions/it varies, no? Also, does it depend on era/sub-genre etc?

Rik VII
July 25th 2017


4130 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"I don't want that ipod hating muppet touching my shit"

If any mid-era Opeth is "your shit", I'm afraid it already happened anyway



"Surely there are plenty of exceptions/it varies, no?"

There are some exceptions, the most obvious one being Uroboros by Dir En Grey. They screwed up the original master, so the re-release is on a whole other level. Haven't heard the D&D remasters though, so I can't judge. Damnation is good as it is imo though, while this one has more of a thin production but it definitely adds to its abrasive nature, so improving it would be possible, but not particularly reasonable.

bloc
July 25th 2017


70880 Comments


"What's your reasoning behind this? I'm curious. Surely there are plenty of exceptions/it varies, no? Also, does it depend on era/sub-genre etc?"

Just from my own experiences of listening to remasters. Megadeth remasters are a great example because some of the shit is even re-recorded for the worse.

In general, most of the metal remasters I have heard are just the same thing, but this time everything is plain louder and sometimes so loud that the shit clips. Or a remaster where the kick drum turns into a click drum, if you know what I mean.

I am sure there are exceptions, and perhaps Opeth is one of them. My commentary is probably ignorant as shit haha

Demon of the Fall
July 25th 2017


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

No worries, was just concerned about buying the incorrect edition of old metal records. Is there any easy way of checking, like a website database, or do you just use Google?



No point in getting the latest edition with a load of extra bonus material if it's a crappy re-master, however if the sound quality is essentially equal then it's worth it.

bloc
July 25th 2017


70880 Comments


I could def be wrong about this particular album though, as others have said that they like it. The remaster might have a positive impact on the overall sound of the album.

I think Google or hell, even this site, is the best bet when it comes to finding out if a remaster is worth it or not. Lots of people are opinionated on the subject and can give meaningful input on what is actually different from the original.



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