Album Rating: 4.0

Indeed, such a shame.

Album Rating: 4.5

For Mike too tbf. As if you'd leave DT to tour with Avenged Sevenfold...

Album Rating: 3.5

"Things took such a huge nosedive after Mike left."



nah they had been putting out a lot of crap even before his departure

Album Rating: 4.5

They did put out some below par releases but I thought Black Clouds was a bit of a return to form



Edit-I think that was Mike's last?

Album Rating: 4.5

Oh yeah Art there was some shit while Mike was in the band but things just go so much more insipid after he jumped ship.

Album Rating: 3.5

you think systematic chaos wasn't just as insipid as the post-mike stuff?

Album Rating: 3.5

the drumming is a lot more generic though, i give you that

Album Rating: 4.5

Systematic Chaos is easily the worst album they made while Mike was still onboard.



Honestly Art the generic drumming is one of the biggest issues I have with current DT. On albums such as this and Awake the drumming always stood out and you could always distinguish Mike from his contemporaries. Now it's as generic as it gets.

Album Rating: 3.5

Had the drums on A Dramatic Turn of Events been performed by Portnoy, the record would have been one of their absolute best ones in my opinion. Even though some of the material on it was superfluous, the songwriting was a huge step away from the clumsiness of the previous three albums.



Black Clouds already was a sort of recovery though, I'd give you that, despite its inconsistent mashes of ideas

Album Rating: 4.0

got my proggles on hard today

Album Rating: 3.5

>proggles

I'm just waiting for an alt to come along with this name now

Album Rating: 4.0

their new shit is embarrassing

Album Rating: 4.0

Dude if Mike hadn't got sober he woulda died in like 01 and he'd have a great reputation

Album Rating: 4.0

DT would be seen as like, true fuckers maybe as opposed to the fart joke they are now

Album Rating: 3.5

looks like fates warning beat them in the end in that regard

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah fates is #1 prog metal band period besides maybe voivod



What's nuts is most people over on the rush fan site I used to frequent seriously think dramatic turn of events and s/t are mind blowing, some dude said illumination theory moved him to tears... Yet almost none of them have heard voivod or fates

Album Rating: 3.5

>rush fan site

there's your problem right there



probably filled with presto fans

Album Rating: 4.0

Some people were cool, most people weren't



Now that rush is disbanded I don't bother

Album Rating: 4.0

The fact that more prog fans haven't heard of FW should embarrass them. They're probably the most consistent of the big 3



DT is just going through the motions now. It really sucks since we know what they were capable of once.



Anyway. Looking forward to the new FW, Pain of Salvation, Evergrey, and Riverside albums

Album Rating: 4.5

Every time me and my buddy smoke we always throw on Strange Deja Vu haha, it's like a rite of passage.