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Yeah when someone computes/over-explains that much it’s bound to get into word salad territory. However, I avoid that by generally being a mostly silent introvert/ghost/prickly recluse let’s goooooo

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Endorphin rips

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Well it started with me saying this doesn’t have much emotional brevity and then instrumental downtempo needs more complexity and dynamics to be largely expressive and then he brought up deathconsciousness and closer for some reason and we started debating gatekeeping (which apparently I was doing no clue how but apparently) and deathconciousness lyrics which of course segued into me shitting on glitch princess

Naturally

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A normal day at Sput

steamin pile o crap

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"Gatekeeping is literally the opposite of organizing cultural phenomena into something that is digestible by the masses"

gatekeepers are anyone who publish books, curate exhibitions, sign artists, program shows etc. when there's a limited amount of content that gets platformed and someone inevitably misses out (rightly or wrongly) as a result of their judgement

they are also people who say "X is worthless sabbath did it better" on the internet, and if that's only kind on the mind here then yes ofc it's restrictive and unhelpful - but gatekeeping goes for people who maintain platforms as well as denys em

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Why are there no doobie brothers reviews on Sputnik



The production on “long train runnin” is insane

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johnny back to coherent mode godspeed

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isnt gatekeeping really distinguished by ulterior motives and not the actions themselves? youre making it seem like a general term for any arbiter of art



edit: oh you clarified second paragraph. but clearly you were accusing me of the latter so this whole red heron of art distributors and such is really just for arguments sake

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damn johnny rereading through this i see what youre saying about context and totally disagree. my understanding is youre saying that the context is what matters and the content is partially arbitrary. and this really just throws the true talent of lyricism and songwriting out the window. do you know how difficult it is to string together syllabically cohesive lines that fit with the music, flow well, and have unique, authentic worth? it's fucking impossible. you cant just let yeule off the hook by saying "well it works from the perspective of the album"



also i kinda have to backtrack on the whole dan barrett poetry thing



ian curtis is a talented poet and lyricist. the eternal is standalone the most beautiful thing ive ever read. it is so poetic and extraordinary that it really transcends musicianship which is extremely rare. very true of much of his lyrics, at least on closer



dan barrett is an extremely talented lyricist. cant really say if its the case with poetry because he hasnt written any poetry ive read. his lyrics and vocal melodies/deliveries are unparalleled on deathconsiousness but they dont lend themselves to poetry because of the uncanny style in which he sings and the direction of the music

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god i would love to sit in a pub with you and chat about this. why dont any of my friends give a shit about music

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"clearly you were accusing me of the latter so this whole red heron of art distributors and such is really just for arguments sake"

um

fwiw i also don't even consider gatekeeping an universal evil, but there is no way i would roll with it in the form of such an absurdly bad take on this album

yeah p much lol - although i do think it's important to flag that gatekeeping is more than person-declaring-opinion politics, since that's what the discussion was technically loosely maybe about

"context is what matters and the content is partially arbitrary"

context can mean a whole load of shit, but here i mean it as the way the individual parts of content interact with one another (and background factors like authorial voice) to produce holistic-finalised-here-it-is Content. so, e.g. lyrics and instrumental music ideally provide context for one another, as do individual tracks on an album. taken that far, you don't need to look outside the work to find meaningful context for why it does/says/suggests/whatevers the way it does. that doesn't mean that you won't find *more* meaningful context if you do go beyond it (e.g. irl circumstances for lyrics, the whole Antiochean cult concept for Deathconsciousness), but that's usually another set of considerations you have later

"this really just throws the true talent of lyricism and songwriting out the window"

songwriting is the art of coordinating different parts of a song on every level to produce something coherent or impactful or whatever the songwriter goes for - this requires keen awareness to how they scan contextually (e.g. maybe you come up with a riff that sounds catchy af on its own, but then you realise it sounds like shit going into or coming out of your chorus; the good songwriter recognises this and either saves it for another track or moves it to another part of the song where it lands better). lyricism is just the part of songwriting that goes specifically for verbal elements, so same deal, and therefore:

"do you know how difficult it is to string together syllabically cohesive lines"

i.e. how the words sound in the context of one another and the song's chosen meter

"that fit with the music"

i.e. how the lines sound in the context of the music

"flow well"

context of internal rhythm/meter, and how this corresponds to the instrumental music (which even may be written in response to lyrical flow but whatever)

"and have unique, authentic worth"

lol fml this requires a new comment

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wth is happening itt

Pain

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were talking about burial - untrue

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A lot of talking — infinite

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check killdozer

https://youtu.be/81CN-r08PuI

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of course context matters in that way. i thought you were talking about the context of the writers intentions towards the music because thats what we were talking about at the time (first line of electric by yeule)

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lmao