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Lelle
July 19th 2024


2819 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

BTW I think the hardest sell for most people are the vocals on this album so you are not alone. They are the definition of "acquired taste". But if they click along with the music, you will get why everyone is raving about this

Ray91
July 19th 2024


1104 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

the vocals scared the shit out of me when first listening to this at the age of 13 or so. I thought that dude must have been tortured. But in the end, it transports the emotions of this record so perfectly

Pikazilla
July 19th 2024


32373 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

transports them where

Ray91
July 19th 2024


1104 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

into the butt. what else?

Shamus248
Contributing Reviewer
July 19th 2024


1323 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I certainly get the raving from an instrumental standpoint. a quick glance at their wikipedia page yields a mention of comparisons they've drawn to the "polyrhythms of jazz", which definitely makes sense



but yea, vox are hardest sell. the lyrics don't even scan as tortured imo. not saying Bannon isn't tortured, i just don't read him that way. vox themselves are mostly unintelligible but i'm willing to look past that

Demon of the Fall
July 19th 2024


39119 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

their wiki page says what now? Jazz is certainly a new and weird perspective

Shamus248
Contributing Reviewer
July 19th 2024


1323 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

per their wiki page: " AllMusic describes them as a "revered punk metal band that combined the aggression of hardcore and metal with the complexity and polyrhythms of jazz.""

Demon of the Fall
July 19th 2024


39119 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I think this bizarre tendency to apply jazz or classical influence / leanings to any music without a typical pop or rock structure is nauseating tbh

This does go beyond standard metallic hardcore structurally (hence the term ‘mathcore’) but isn’t overly complex outside of the percussion really. It certainly doesn’t share too much in common with jazz from what I can gather

JohnnyoftheWell
July 19th 2024


64287 Comments


smells of a punk writer talking out of their arse. there was a long era on sput where anything halfway dissonant was associated with free jazz - enough Ornette Coleman fans here now that that shit would have been bullied right off, but jazz discourse was rough in the early '10s and presumably '00s

Demon of the Fall
July 19th 2024


39119 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah. Essentially it’s a Wikipedia cited ref talking shit which isn’t particularly surprising or uncommon

robertsona
Emeritus
July 19th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It hurts the case that there’s zero “swing” to Converge…even like yknow Weakling or whatever has some bounce

Demon of the Fall
July 19th 2024


39119 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Interesting mention. Literally tried listening to Weakling a few hours ago but my rip is RIP(?) because even at 320 it seemed deathly quiet, lol

will try again with bigger badder headphones

robertsona
Emeritus
July 19th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It’s the best

Ignimbrite
August 9th 2024


6944 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

just got a nice cold brew at a coffee shop while wearing my Jane Doe shirt and had an interaction with a guy who described it as "millennial-coded" and "Joy Division for hardcore kids" [friendly]



i feel simultaneously seen and called out

anode
August 9th 2024


3011 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Converge being joy division for hardcore kids is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. I wouldn’t take much credence from that guy

Ignimbrite
August 9th 2024


6944 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

nah, think it was specifically the logo/shirt, which i kinda get

anode
August 9th 2024


3011 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Oh like that unknown pleasures shirt everyone used to walk around in?

Wildcardbitchesss
August 9th 2024


19814 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Idk saying that converge took on a southern rock influence is a pretty stupid thing to say too

anode
August 9th 2024


3011 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Hey man meat salad corroborated the southern metal in track 4 on that god forsaken album. I said southern rock to just piss people off but I was really talking southern metal and it’s spruced throughout that album not just track 4 whether you like it or not

Ignimbrite
August 9th 2024


6944 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yep, exactly that. it's the Unknown Pleasures shirt for millennial hardcore kids



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