I'm wondering how to interpret all yall ratings tbh

If you think a thousand suns and living things as nostalgia response to early industrial bands, it works pretty well.

Blackout kicks ass, actually ATS is pretty good. But if the whole thing had a more industrial rock or hard rock oriented sound rather than a synth pop sound the album would have been much better, the biggest proof of that are mark the graves and a line in the sand. Those tracks have elements of ATS era but they have more rock elements and those tunes are legendary. Also WTCFM despite of been cool industrial rap track is completely out of place in a concept album related to nuclear devastation

"I haven't listened to One More Light but it's hard to imagine it's worse than Living Things."

Compared with one more light, living things is like hybrid theory, animals, mezzanine, peace sells and chaosphere combined. Now seriously for me LT is a 4, with the exception of lies, greed misery and skin to bone the songwriting is very solid and most of the tunes are fun as fuck, even burn it down, fight me

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I like you kid, high five for that response

Now to be seriously when this album was released I didn't hate it but my rating was like a 2,5 just like MTM. Listened this effort again and I started digging even more tunes like waiting to the end, iridiscent and the catalyst, besides after the fiasco of OML the previous LP efforts will get automatically a higher score

Album Rating: 4.5

Living Things is a weaker album, but still a fun one for the most part. The second half is easily the more interesting, with a lot more experimentation involved. The problem is, the whole album comes across like an 'A Thousand Suns B-Sides' CD with guitars added, and doesn't really know what it wants to be.

Living Things actually seems more like a more modern version of meteora, but with a stronger influence of synth pop, synth rock and acts like awolnation. The problem with LT is the existance of Lies greed misery and skin to bone, besides until it breaks is enjoyable but it lacks of any sort of direction very easily, first it seems like a foreign beggars tracks and in the last part it seems like a brit pop track when delson sings

Album Rating: 4.5

'Living Things actually seems more like a more modern version of meteora'



I'm actually inclined to agree with you there now that you've pointed it out, I always just got the vibe that while ATS had some actual real depth to the album, LT was every single song rejected and added to the 'next album!' pile.

They're just so similar sometimes;

Burn it Down - Diluted 'The Catalyst'

Victimized - Less inspired 'Blackout'

Skin To Bone/Until It Breaks - Weaker versions of WTCFM and Wretches and Kings

I'm voting to encourage linkin park to become an industrial band..or synthpop. Ministry did exactly the opposite, and they never got the response linkin park had.

They're just so similar sometimes;

Burn it Down - Diluted 'The Catalyst'

Victimized - Less inspired 'Blackout'

Skin To Bone/Until It Breaks - Weaker versions of WTCFM and Wretches and Kings


The catalyst had NIN elements, burn it down seems more like a pet shop boys or erasure track with chester and mike singing. Blackout had more elements of breakbeat music and the instrumentation was more electronic that the one on victimized which seems more like an attempt of LP to make a hardcore tune, inspired by D.R.I or atari teenage riot. WTCFM and Wretches and kigns were heavily influenced by public enemy and hardcore rap, skin to bone is just a messy synth rock song and Until it breaks is a track that at first seems like a foreign beggars track and in the last part it seems like a brit pop track when delson sings.

I'm voting to encourage linkin park to become an industrial band..or synthpop. Ministry did exactly the opposite, and they never got the response linkin park had.

Well ATS and LT are more synth pop than industrial.

I know, but it would be cool that they tried to put some industrial flavour in their sound.

I know, but it would be cool that they tried to put some industrial flavour in their sound.


Actually they should do that, or they should combine the sound of hybrid theory with the hunting party for the next album. Anyways, I will be happy if the next LP album don't sound like OML, goddammit, that album makes me angry as fuck for all the wrong reasons

Album Rating: 4.5

One More Light makes people angry because it was preceded by Hunting Party, the 'lets bring back rock woo' album. Then suddenly right after Linkin Park are making an R&B/pop-esque album. People were understandably confused haha

One More Light makes people angry because it was preceded by Hunting Party, the 'lets bring back rock woo' album. Then suddenly right after Linkin Park are making an R&B/pop-esque album. People were understandably confused haha

Dude regardless of the context, OML is pure crap, there are only 3 decent tracks ( talking to myself, the self titled and sharp edges) and those tracks are just average tracks released by thousands of indie pop bands, the rest is worse, that mashup between chainsmokers, avicii, 21 piltos and imagine dragons is insulting for the old school LP fans and most of the post meteora fans. Genre isn't a problem either, LP have released a lot of good pop and pop rock songs ( blackbirds, my december, iridiscent, castle of glass, roads untraveled, burning in the skies, the little things and even not alone), songs which are far superior to the stuff released by most of the mainstream and most of their contemporaries. Still, can understand your idea, I hope that after a magnum opus like the hunting party which had epic alt metal tracks like GATS, Mark the graves and ALITS they continue to develop the concept and make another alt metal/ hard rock album, but we have fuckin heavy, more like crappy.

Album Rating: 4.5

'there are only 3 decent tracks ( talking to myself, the self titled and sharp edges)'



You've just named my three favourite tracks. I agree with a lot of what you said, but I also stand by what I did - The Hunting Party, which was pretty much a magnum opus yeah, stood for something, and One More Light just completely backtracked it and that pissed people off.

The Hunting Party was Shinoda's anger towards a lack of rock these days, but his work has been completely undone by what One More Light has accomplished. It completely lacks the diversity A Thousand Suns or even to an extent Living Things had to offer and just comes across as a very flawed album. It could have been so much greater.

Album Rating: 4.6

This was a bit industrial, wasn't it?

This was a bit industrial, wasn't it?

Has some elements but is more like a synth pop or synth rock album tbh

Album Rating: 4.0

jamming this all day in his memory