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JayEnder
December 13th 2018


22714 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Dendron kills me you guys have no idea.

Project
December 13th 2018


5959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

In Framing is the one I still remember the most years later because some of those lyrics are just remarkable: "bit off more than could chew and then swallowed it whole/ I choked on your temper when you felt alone" and the entire last verse I mean wow



butt.
December 13th 2018


11429 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Pictures of you smiling in times when I just couldn’t be around"



DUDE that's the line that does it. Every time.

JayEnder
December 20th 2018


22714 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Dendron



Your Deep Rest



Housebroken



Life In Drag



Among the Wildflowers



Scope



In Framing



Introduction



Discomfort Revisited



Man it was hard to do that to Discomfort lol. Still love the song but my current ranking

Pheromone
December 20th 2018


21850 Comments


Wtf introduction is the goat

butt.
December 20th 2018


11429 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah I hate seeing Introduction that low, but reading that also made me realize I could never rank these songs. Nothing deserves to be in the bottom 5 lol

Pheromone
December 20th 2018


21850 Comments


Idk - I kind of agree but I also think there is a notable ‘top’ pile

onionbubs
December 20th 2018


23796 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

scope

intro

dendron

life in drag

wildflowers

in framing

discomfort

deep rest

housebroken



but i havent heard this in like a year so this may be completely wrong

Conmaniac
December 20th 2018


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah no I'm not gonna rank these songs.

Clumseee
December 21st 2018


1847 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

intro



deep rest



wildflowers



life in drag



scope



discomfort



dendron



housebroken



in framing

HawksMadeAnAlt
January 25th 2019


193 Comments


Idk why I haven’t jammed this until now but wow it’s so good.

HawksMadeAnAlt
January 25th 2019


193 Comments


Also the review for this is prob one of the best on the site.

dimsim3478
January 25th 2019


8987 Comments


dendron
wildflowers
housebroken
deep rest
discomfort
intro
drag
scope
framing

btw i'm still a little irked by people thinking intro is one of the best songs on the album cuz its overarching structure is that fucking obvious "quiet quiet quiet then big loud cathartic moment" thing so you know where the fuck it's going from note one and theres a million other songs--many of which are album intros--with the exact same structure so it sounds a bit like another generic album opener but other than the overaching structure the song is a stroke of genius

imo dendron is like "in the water" on science fiction; it's so clearly head and shoulders above every other song on the album even though the rest of the album is all phenomenal songs

butt.
January 25th 2019


11429 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

@dimsim honestly I just don't think that's really a valid critique, because a lot of what they did hear is pretty tried & true as well. The chord structures and overall flow of the album are not unique at all, but it's the execution, emotion, and delivery that makes everything stand out more. Intro wasn't as predictable as you say because it actually takes a long time to hit the big cathartic moment. They tease you a couple times before finally letting loose. And honestly...there are only so many ways to open an album. Nearly every way could be considered "generic" at this point. It works very well here.



Essay over.

dimsim3478
January 25th 2019


8987 Comments


Intro wasn't as predictable as you say because it actually takes a long time to hit the big cathartic moment. They tease you a couple times before finally letting loose.

imo taking a long time to get to the big cathartic moment is still pretty generic; i've heard tons of songs that do it (specifically, songs where the whole structure is just long soft part then loud part, as opposed to soft loud soft loud loud soft soft loud). that said, the way the dynamics crest and fall as you point out is incredibly compelling and adds another dimension to the long soft part before the climax that makes it more than just a "long soft part"

And honestly...there are only so many ways to open an album. Nearly every way could be considered "generic" at this point. It works very well here.

as a result of its dead simple overarching structure (soft, then loud) and constant repetition of the same rhythmic idea for the majority of its duration, i also think "intro" is inherently more simplistic overall than the other songs on the album. when you get down to the details of it, the song's not actually that simple at all--it's incredibly detailed and the fundamental rhythmic idea is kinda irregular--but songs have to be viewed at both the levels of their little details and their full, overarching scope. and speaking solely (but no less importantly) to the latter, it's relatively simple.

dont get me wrong, i recognise that that's all done to great effect on the song, and i'm a big fan of simplicity, and frankly, i think the song is fucking incredible. but when comparing the songs, structural variety is a factor that makes "intro" pale in comparison slightly against the others.

letsgofishing
January 25th 2019


1721 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The Hotelier aren't pioneers in 'emo rock". They haven't done anything new. They probably will never do anything new. They're just better at what everyone else has ever done than about anyone else who has ever done it.

butt.
January 25th 2019


11429 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

alright, that's fair.

however...you lose half a point for using unusually large text.

;)

dimsim3478
January 25th 2019


8987 Comments


unusually large text happens whenever i use the "quote" bb code thing.

just occurred to me that there could be a new album this year.

butt.
January 25th 2019


11429 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

we're long overdue imo

letsgofishing
January 25th 2019


1721 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"just occurred to me that there could be a new album this year."



I saw this somewhere too. No idea where, though, now that I'm thinking about it.



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