Circle Takes the Square As the Roots Undo
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DiceMan
June 30th 2010


7066 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I would have thought that you were smart enough to make enough money to hire people to do that for you.

Ghostechoes
June 30th 2010


1354 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

It is not that bad, but I wonder about its lasting appeal, I cannot imagine myself listening to this when I am

30, 6 years from now.



In before "lol, stfu grandpa"

ConsiderPhlebas
June 30th 2010


6157 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

The lyrics on their next album will be true literature

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

thor for staff

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

thor for staff? pweeaase?!

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lawlz.



In The Nervous Light Of Sunday is without a doubt my favorite, though Interview and Same Shade come close behind it.

Inveigh
June 30th 2010


27033 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

sucks that they took down BigHans' review

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

not really. Due to the time he posted it, it was really just a bore. If he posted it say a month or two from now it would be amusing, but posting a non-review during a short time period of CTTS hate makes it less funny and more of a drag. it's not like it showed any actual insight on CTTS other than perhaps their lyrical content(no offense han).

Apollo
June 30th 2010


10691 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

just for kicks I decided to listen to a couple of songs again last night to see if this was really that bad.



It still is.

Relinquished
June 30th 2010


50089 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

good for you, apollo

Inveigh
June 30th 2010


27033 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Eno: if you're referring to that day last week when the three negative reviews were posted, BigHans' was the first (although MJ's had been around loooooong before that it was just taken down the night before).



I plan on doing it someday MJ, but I'm thinking I should wait til all the controversy dies down a bit. Plus, I will need to listen to it again in order to write one and I really, really don't want to do that.

Willie
Moderator
June 30th 2010


20674 Comments


Iluvatar, in your Soundoff for this album, you write that

the lyrics are pure poetry

now your opinions might have changed on this. but are you serious? have you ever studied poetry before? haha
You're supposed to be smart, but you can't seem to see past what you've learned in school. That should only be a starting point, after which you should think for yourself. It would also help if you realized that there is a lot of grey area in the arts and it is up to individual interpretation.

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

^....you realize this is a ctts thread right?

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

iluvatar should take mj under his wing

Ghostechoes
June 30th 2010


1354 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

For anyone interested in poetry, this is, I believe, an essential read:



http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Poetry-Cleanth-Brooks/dp/0030769809



Illuvatar must have read it ten or twelve times by now.

ConsiderPhlebas
June 30th 2010


6157 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

The lyrics are pure shit

Apollo
June 30th 2010


10691 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

^bingo

Enotron
June 30th 2010


7695 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'd agree that ultimately CTTS failed to really spark a conceptual and mature theme throughout the album with their lyrics, but I really like the sound of them at times and they are phrased well enough. I'd agree that a lot of it really is nonsensical pretense.

BigHans
June 30th 2010


30959 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Enotron, not offended by your criticism of that review but technically I was the first to post that day.

Willie
Moderator
June 30th 2010


20674 Comments


i would agree that to judge lyrics or poetry strictly by the formulae laid down in the textbooks would be a barren scholasticism. obviously there is some flexibility when it comes to the rules of poetics, some room for intuition.

still, no one who even remotely knew what he was talking about when it comes to poetry, literature, or even just good writing would be able to say that with As the Roots Undo "the lyrics are pure poetry." nowhere in their grandiloquent, pseudo-archaic ramblings is there anything even approaching good writing. they're a "sluttish hullabaloo of words and phrases," to quote Belinskii


I've never heard this band, and don't really plan on it. My thing is that when you argue your points by asking whether or not they've studied a particular subject (especially concerning the arts), you're kind of limiting yourself. A lot of emerging artistic movements were shot down by the old establishment. Eventually most of them were accepted and are even included in schools around the world. I'm not trying to say that CTtS are an emerging artistic movement, only that you can't always fit a new way of doing something into an old way of thinking.



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