oh yeah thats partly what i said in one of my comments. theyre not necessarily bad people. and obvs music speaks for itself

but after a certain point, im just less willing to give certain bands a try because i know they come from that background and im just a bit sick of constantly seeing the wealth and family connections everywhere i look. its disheartening

Haha that comment is beautiful, Mort.

I would love to see moshpits of people facing each other with windmill arms like The Simpsons.

yeah wolf alice being posh as hell has nothing to do with their music other than ellies completely feeble middle class attempts at 'rock' fierceness on yuk foo and whatever the punk track on the latest one was

There's a lot of privilege and even nepotism in the arts but ultimately, I am more inclined towards appreciating art on an individual level. I don't let it annoy me but maybe I can't because of my own privileges. It would probably be quite hypocritical of me to judge others that way when I was born into a middle-class family with plenty of opportunity. I know as an individual, I've struggled with mental health, so I'm also inclined toward viewing art on the person and not what they were born into. That privilege is for them to reckon with, not me.

yeah for sure. there are plenty of people who squander opportunities they were born into due to mental health issues, health issues, family problems etc. doesnt make them failures. also doesnt make them wankers when they succeed

certainly doesnt mean they should be lauded as geniuses when they do succeed tho. i have a bit of an issue with that word being bandied around and also just hero/idol worship in general.

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Hmm, I don’t want to speak on anyone else’s behalf but that response seemed a bit insensitive Mort, particularly the phrase ‘squanderer opportunities’

It seems to just come with celebrity and fame, I suppose. I wouldn't like it myself. XD I don't envy that station; having my life on full blast. Especially in this day and age with social media. No, thank you.

Celebrities seem set up to fail. It's like all this absolute perfectionism that people expect. I'd hate to have that much expectation and influence. I can't even trust myself to get up on time for work.

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What about people who came from very little, made something of themselves (talking ‘relatively’ here), maybe ‘transcended’ the class they were born into or whatever, but have since fallen and have really struggled just to be a functioning person



This is in absolutely no way auto-biographical, I swear 🤔

'Hmm, I don’t want to speak on anyone else’s behalf but that response seemed a bit insensitive Mort, particularly the phrase ‘squanderer opportunities’'

oh my apologies i genuinely didnt mean to insult anyone. i was also mainly talking about myself. i got diagnosed with ocd in my early 20s but went through education fucking up relentlessly and missing a lot of opportunities when i should have succeeded. undiagnosed ocd was partly to blame, the rest was me being a drug addled idiot.

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No worries, just thought it might come across badly as a response to HelloJoe’s comment.



…but yeah I understand that feeling, there were certainly circumstances surrounding my own ‘failings’ when I was growing up, doesn’t mean I couldn’t have maybe done more

It's all good. I didn't take it that way, anyway. I have GAD but through CBT and medication, I've come a long way into improving my general mental health. I was very fortunate growing up to have a really supportive family and a good education. I still had a very low impression of myself and I was a hypochondriac.

It brought on me a perspective that people are entitled to their struggles. I know that's somewhat divorced from industry and how industries may reward nepotism over an independent talent, maybe but I'm more inclined to put that on marketing than I am the musician and their individual station or upbringing. Everyone works through stuff in their own way and at the end of the day, I've responded emotionally to art coming from all manners of wealth and class.

Probably the bit about whales.

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I actually think this band have learnt to musically weaponise and channel their poshness lol - might as well be thyselves

I'm definitely sympathetic to anyone who resents how moneyed seemingly everyone in the indie scene's families are but the fact of the matter is that there's not much of a living to be made selling your own music outside the major labels (and even then it can be dicey), so the vast majority of young artists who can't afford to fail get naturally filtered out, even by things as simple as not having the free time to pour into it.

TLDR if we want to see more diverse perspectives thriving in music the only solution is a radical restructuring of the industry!!!

Soulless bunch of cunts

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"TLDR if we want to see more diverse perspectives thriving in music the only solution is a radical restructuring of the industry!!!"

on the one hand yes, on the other hand maybe everyone on sput staff should immediately halt reviewing trend bilge and focus almost exclusively on underrepresented artists

from then on, everything can be even more the userbase's fault than usual ex dee

Oh please Johnny we all know you'd be the first to crack ;P

Only so many obscure Japanese noise pop bands to chinstroke over before a man starts fiending for Takes

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i had an absolutely perfect retort, but then remembered there is a new Dance Gavin Dance record in a matter of days and dropped it on the floor

it gone :[

I will be extremely not commenting in that thread and I need the rest of you to hold me to my word there

why does the bandcamp link to a totally different record