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Hyperion1001
Emeritus
October 12th 2021


29724 Comments


I mean I’ve done the same thing in the past few years once I got over the adolescent “elite” mindset of a lot of internet music databases.

The only difference is that I found myself enjoying most everything I avoided in the past, as long as I just accepted it for what it is instead of trying to fit things into boxes they weren’t meant to fit into.

But, that seems like exactly what this guy is doing. I mean thinking this record has anything at all to do with melodic death metal just screams “I didn’t actually listen to this very closely”. It just comes off fake, even if it is his true opinion.

It’s like I said on the first page, it’s so much easier to just like things, especially if you let yourself like them for what they are.

parksungjoon
October 12th 2021


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

>it’s so much easier to just like things, especially if you let yourself like them for what they are.



but is it tho

Demon of the Fall
October 12th 2021


39126 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

3rd part is definitely a problem, but re-listening to stuff will hopefully breed familiarity/acceptance, sometimes people just need to get comfortable with a style before they can truly enjoy it. Explore outside of their current boundaries etc.



I'm not sure it's easier to like things as such, although it certainly is a happier place to be.

parksungjoon
October 12th 2021


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

agreed

GhandhiLion
October 12th 2021


17793 Comments


WE FIND OURSELVES CONFINED

ToSmokMuzyki
October 12th 2021


15099 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

'So hang on, I'm a bit dense... you're re-listening to everything in the general metal spectrum/sphere/whatever but starting with the stuff you don't remember liking much? That's pretty cool actually. Never hurts to refresh your memory and perhaps gain new perspectives.'



starting with metallia in general regardless of whether i like it/listened to it before or not

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
October 12th 2021


29724 Comments


well what I mean is that it’s easier to like things that are good.

I’m still a firm believer in sturgeons law, it’s just that if something is bad I don’t think it’s worth dwelling on the hate. I’ve been guilty of troll hating before but idk it just feels like such a waste of energy anymore.

GhandhiLion
October 12th 2021


17793 Comments


"it’s easier to like things that are good"

so true

ToSmokMuzyki
October 12th 2021


15099 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

'The only difference is that I found myself enjoying most everything I avoided in the past, as long as I just accepted it for what it is instead of trying to fit things into boxes they weren’t meant to fit into.'



that's exactly what i've been doing, but i find i still don't like it and except for a few golden nuggets I find my time well saved. the only difference between me now and my past self is i wouldn't have dared insult any holy relics with the ease i do now



'But, that seems like exactly what this guy is doing. I mean thinking this record has anything at all to do with melodic death metal just screams “I didn’t actually listen to this very closely”. It just comes off fake, even if it is his true opinion.'



it's an amalgamation of a lot of shit, as stated in the review. mdm is the closest catch all with such happy melodic choruses. the melodies are too high-tuned and slow to consider it tech thrash and everything else is too mellow to even consider it death metal. call it technical/progressive whatever doesn't make it any better. the only song i can tolerate on this album is 1000 eyes bc of it's very mdmy chorus



'It’s like I said on the first page, it’s so much easier to just like things, especially if you let yourself like them for what they are.'



i don't want easy i want shit that actually coherently does something. liking things just because is a terrible idea but it explains the hive mentality

MrSirLordGentleman
October 12th 2021


15343 Comments


Hyperion speaking hard facts

"but is it tho"

maybe not easier but once you start to open your mind to other stuff, on one hand you start enjoying more stuff (which I don't see how it can be bad) and on the other hand you see your superiority complex reduced

Prog and 70's stuff in general is still my favorite kind of music, but since I've started to listen more to metal, rap, funk, electronica, folk, etc, etc for a few years now, I've found myself to be able to enjoy a lot more music.

In my opinion one of the best ways to spot a real music aficionado is if someone can appreciate the good stuff in all of the music spectrum instead of having the classic mindset of shitting on everything.

It's not really something directed at ToSmokMuzyki, many sputnikers just love to comment on threads of stuff they don't like with stuff like "this is too pretentious, this is too bland, simple, annoying, boomer shit, millenial crap, pseudo intellectual stuff, etc, etc". In reality, tons of stuff of what they like can as easily be found to be flawed.

I might get a little bit defensive when supporting albums I like, like most people do, but I almost never shit on other stuff because it really is childish most of the time. I'm not trying to say music is SO subjective that you can compare the quality of the 9th Symphony with Pitbull but there is still a huge subjective part to it. Yet in the end it really seems as if users tend to get some kind of pleasure into shitting into the stuff other people like. Why commenting so much on threads of music you don't like instead of focusing on stuff you like if that's the case? It's certainly not to debate about the music, since when people do it they clearly aren't in a mindset of "I'm open to change my negative vision of this". 90% of the time is nothing more than "lol dis suckz"

So yeah, maybe not "easier", but you enjoy more stuff, learn more about music (since you expand your taste to wider parts of music history and inspirations) and, in what I emphasize is just an opinion, ends up being a real sign of maturity instead of the classic teenage elitist mindset as Hyperion described

MrSirLordGentleman
October 12th 2021


15343 Comments


"i don't want easy i want shit that actually coherently does something. liking things just because is a terrible idea but it explains the hive mentality"

It's not liking things "because". It's not as if someone is faking to like something, what sense would that make?

Opening your mind to it might be the total opposite to easy but once you do, little by little, I start to see stuff on it I like and end up being able to truly enjoy it and appreciate stuff for what it is. Then again, your comment really ends up sounding like nothing but pretentious stuff, implying that because music doesn't "coherently do something" to you it won't to the rest, or saying that opening your mind to other music is hive mentality when it might be the total opposite. The classic hive mentality is to stay in the comfort zone of what you like because that's what's "good" and what you don't like "is not good"

Pon
Emeritus
October 12th 2021


6187 Comments


It's obv impossible to like everything but finding stuff you enjoy is very easy if you understand your own tastes. If you're disliking 95% of what you're finding, you're just looking in the wrong places, perhaps intentionally.

ToSmokMuzyki
October 12th 2021


15099 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off

oh boy oh boy oh boy

sonictheplumber
October 12th 2021


17600 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ill say this man. whatever your mission is, you accomplished it lol

sonictheplumber
October 12th 2021


17600 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

it helps that ive done my fair share of playful shit talking about 90s death anyway despite it being my intro to poseur fake melodeth ;)

sonictheplumber
October 12th 2021


17600 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

check out phish dude theyre proto-death metal avant jazzstep

GhandhiLion
October 12th 2021


17793 Comments


lol

MrSirLordGentleman
October 12th 2021


15343 Comments


lol

sonic represents exactly what the archetype of a sputniker should be

parksungjoon
October 12th 2021


47227 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

>maybe not easier but once you start to open your mind to other stuff, on one hand you start enjoying more stuff (which I don't see how it can be bad) and on the other hand you see your superiority complex reduced





thats true, it wasnt that long ago that i couldnt have imagined enjoying drone and noise like i do now

TheSonomaDude
October 12th 2021


10105 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

album is gay aids, not a single blast beat or pig squeal



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