Jeff Rosenstock NO DREAM
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Djang0
May 24th 2020


1154 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

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Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
May 24th 2020


38334 Comments


This sounds like a hundred other pop punk albums I've heard. Nothing about this sounds distinguishing in any way. Like Blink aren't the best obv but at least albums like their self titled have an identity and stand out in the genre

tom79
May 24th 2020


3964 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I get how his sound could be irritating to some but I don't really think this (or his other stuff) sounds like other pop punk, like at all. Though maybe a more casual listener would find his sound less distinguishable.

ignorethefashion
May 24th 2020


137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Jeff's stuff usually comes off to me as a mix of 90's bay area skate punk and early Weezer, so whether or not it's pop punk depends on your definition. I consider Jeff pop punk, because I consider skate punk to be pop punk--or at least the early stages of it. But pop punk wasn't a dirty term to me until Blink came in, and the Sum 41's and Good Charlotte's followed. Jeff and Pup are about the only reasons I've touched the genre in 20+ years.

decisions
May 24th 2020


1246 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Beers Again Alone is good, but I really never understood the whole WORRY > We Cool thing because I feel like there are 5 or 6 songs on We Cool that are better than anything on WORRY: Get Old Forever, You In Weird Cities, Nausea, I'm Serious I'm Sorry, Hey Allison!, The Lows.



And then every other song on it I enjoy to varying degrees. The only songs I even really like on WORRY are the last five. The rest hit me when I'm in the right mood but often feel gimmicky or not punk enough for what I want out of Jeff's sound.

Slex
May 24th 2020


17866 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

This isn't even pop-punk.

alamo
May 24th 2020


5969 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

shoegase

Satellite
May 24th 2020


26539 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah i try not to give a shit about genre policing, but this isn't really pop-punk.

Conmaniac
May 24th 2020


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Is this that good fuck. Checking now...

Conmaniac
May 24th 2020


27771 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Also we cool way more consistent and just a better album imo than worry but that's just meeeee

deathschool
May 24th 2020


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

We Cool is still my favorite of his solo albums but this one is gunning for that spot

dimsim3478
May 24th 2020


8987 Comments


This isn't even pop-punk.

yeah i try not to give a shit about genre policing, but this isn't really pop-punk.

Glad people are on the same page as me regarding the categorisation. Obviously Jeff's solo stuff is "pop" and "punk" but that doesn't automatically make it "pop punk", at least not in the same way as Blink, Real Friends, Neck Deep etc. I've said this before but what Jeff does can be much more precisely described as a mix of punk, indie rock and power pop.
Jeff's stuff usually comes off to me as a mix of 90's bay area skate punk and early Weezer, so whether or not it's pop punk depends on your definition.

I don't really hear any "skate punk" in there at all.

deathschool
May 24th 2020


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It’s it’s power-pop-punk / punk-pop

deathschool
May 24th 2020


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Can’t think of any pop punk that sounds like this though, lol. If you have any suggestions, I’d love to check em out.

decisions
May 24th 2020


1246 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I think the term "pop" denotes a simple, easily digestible songwriting style that is concerned with a few simple effective hooks.



Whether you like it or not, Jeff's songwriting is often much more complicated, dynamic and ambitious than the term "pop" would denote. To me, that's why he's not a pop-punk artist. He doesn't really write pop songs. An example of him doing so is Nausea, which is a great song, but most of his songs are just not structured in such a traditional way. You can use pop elements outside of a pop song.



Furthermore, I think you could argue a lot of Jeff's songwriting could be described as "grassroots symphony" where the songs are structured as something really ambitious and epic but are done so with a dressed-down punk toolset that keeps things gritty, humble, and unprofessional. This combination is quite alluring to people who like punk music but are tired of traditional song structures. Hence, Jeff's success.

deathschool
May 24th 2020


29477 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

He has a lot of pop sensibilities in that he can write the fucking fuck out of a catchy hook, but outside of that, it’s a bit of a misnomer.

dimsim3478
May 24th 2020


8987 Comments


He doesn't really write pop songs. An example of him doing so is Nausea, which is a great song, but most of his songs are just not structured in such a traditional way.

This is true, actually. Most of his solo songs are no more poppy than, like, a Weakerthans song. I suppose when I said it's definitely "pop", I was just thinking of like "Wave Goodnight to Me", "Festival Song", "TV Stars", etc.

zakalwe
May 24th 2020


41928 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

I come here just to lol at Doof’s 2.5.

bloodshy
May 24th 2020


2773 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Maybe this is just what pop punk was always supposed to sound like and no one else ever got it right.

Eons
May 24th 2020


3778 Comments


are bands like bad religion or Social Distortion pop punk, technically?



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