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Flugmorph
May 1st 2020


35411 Comments


big if true

Thalassic
May 1st 2020


5740 Comments


I was about to give you a nod of understanding, until you started talking down the vocals

There's certain things that you just don't do

MementoMori
May 1st 2020


900 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

His high's are powerful, but his lows don't impress me that much. Some excellent shrieks and wails, some decent growls. Granted, he does have some range in his highs, but it's not enough to justify your compliments I think. Again, great vocal performance, but not without its limitations and certainly not stellar. Also, he does seem to receive some help from the production side of things. Gnarly vocalist, but honestly, it's the riffs, the THICK production, and their ability to craft some highly immersive atmospheres, which appeals to me most.

EDIT: sometimes, when the man attempts to go slighly lower and more subtle, his projection seems to fall flat on its face and so does the distortion on his vocals, which makes them sound super weak.

Thalassic
May 1st 2020


5740 Comments


He doesn't really use his lows a ton here. He uses them way more in Spectral Voice. I heard him pull off his vocals live with latter band and - except for some reverb - he doesn't need a lot of productional interference to sound terrific.

And well...the atmosphere-heavy parts...kinda are helped by those creep incantations he does with his vox whenever they come up

So yes, a lot does come down to his vox. And with so many people praising the album for its vocal performance, you seem to hear or don't hear things others are or aren't hearing.


MementoMori
May 1st 2020


900 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

His lack of actual low usages, really undermines the power of the vocal performance on this recrod, especially given the fact that a murky dm-record like this really could've benifited from some nasty lows. His highs have some range, but they're certainly nowhere near as earth-shattering as those of great black-metal vocalists. Again, I think his vocals are rather amazing, but this thread seems to be overinflating them.

Those atmosphere parts, simply don't fit this type of music (at least not in the way they're currently composed), they're also inserted haphazardly and they overstay their welcome. His vocals during those parts really lack the proper amount of distortion to me. I think they probably should've limited the track lengths to under 6 minutes, or found a way to make the doomy pats more engaging and more dynamic.

P.S. we're talking about the production choices made in regard to the studio vocals, not his live vox.

Thalassic
May 1st 2020


5740 Comments


Comment 1;

"their ability to craft some highly immersive atmospheres, which appeals to me most."

Comment 2;
"Those atmosphere parts, simply don't fit this type of music (at least not in the way they're currently composed)"


Is contradicting yourself a hobby of yours?

And please don't write me a fucking paragraph.

MementoMori
May 1st 2020


900 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

@Thalassic: let me elaborate. The record's dense nature already grants it an immersiveness. It's when the atmospheric dm is substituted by the doomy passages, when the record's atmosphere falters. As I said, I generally think the record has atmosphere during its dm parts, it doesn't always work however, especially during those doomy sections. That was my point.

TLDR: I was referring to the doomy passages, not the record's overall ability to craft an immersive atmosphere. It might sound paradoxical as you've quoted it there, but it's really not.

Thalassic
May 1st 2020


5740 Comments


You're entitled to your opinion.
As I'm entitled to say that I completely disagree as from my point of view the doomy parts are extremely well done and make it set itself aside from the pack

MementoMori
May 1st 2020


900 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Sure, it's exactly those slower parts, which I feel are unbefitting of the music and kill the momentum, whilst also being lazily worked out from a compositional perspective, especially in the final track. To each their own I suppose.

Thalassic
May 1st 2020


5740 Comments


"Sure, it's exactly those slower parts, which I feel are unbefitting of the music and kill the momentum, whilst also being lazily worked out from a compositional perspective, especially in the final track."

There probably are people out there that listened to this album that agree with your take, but the general consensus seems to point in a more positive direction.

"To each their own I suppose."

Let's leave it at that.

MementoMori
May 1st 2020


900 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Considering how personal musical enjoyment really is, appeals to consensus probably shouldn't be made. Certainly, it's great people are enjoying this type of dm, I hope this style continues to be made, hopefully more as well.

DDDeftoneDDD
May 3rd 2020


23518 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Last 2 tracks rule agreed. So does the whole album...I happen to love the climaxes and how they are built...the last track have 8 minutes because last riff is amazingly cool, and for some, could go on like forever...that or the dudes couldn t afford a fade out...that s music business these days x) I'm glad it ends like this...

wildinferno2010
May 3rd 2020


1950 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I love the production on this. Haven't really kept up with much death metal, is a lot of it this noisy?

TheNotrap
May 3rd 2020


19369 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

By noisy, do you mean filthy? Most of the OSDM Incantation-esque bands have this cavernous vibe.

Thalassic
May 3rd 2020


5740 Comments


"is a lot of it this noisy"

Not really. This has some bestial/war metal influences in the vein of Teitanblood. That's why it's more wall-of-sound-like than your average DM record.

TheNotrap
May 3rd 2020


19369 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

^^^ Teitanblood is a good call ^^^

Thalassic
May 3rd 2020


5740 Comments


Teitanblood is one of the (relatively speaking to the underground) higher profile modern bands that has a kinda similar aesthetic to this. Even though they have their own tweaks as well.

There's bands like for instance Grave Miasma or Cruciamentum that can get "noisy" sonically speaking, but they are more straight-on cavernous OSDM.

wildinferno2010
May 3rd 2020


1950 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"By noisy, do you mean filthy?"



I guess? Tbh this doesn't sound as disgusting to me as that new Afterbirth album and that was definitely produced more cleanly than this.



"This has some bestial/war metal influences in the vein of Teitanblood. That's why it's more wall-of-sound-like than your average DM record."



Neat. I'll have to check out Teitanblood, then.

DDDeftoneDDD
May 3rd 2020


23518 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I found Teitanblood far more chaotic than this tbf...

TheNotrap
May 3rd 2020


19369 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's definitely more chaotic D, but I understood the aesthetic connection Thalassic pointed out.



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