Album Rating: 3.5

i really wish the cleans weren't so dime a dozen (aside from Waves)



Landmine is an absolute banger tho

this seems like generic, run of the mill metalcore. i dont get the high ratings tbh

Album Rating: 4.0

mostly because it's better generic, run of the mill metalcore. If it wasn't I would've dropped it like I did certain other albums.

Album Rating: 3.0

I'd say this is slightly better than your average metalcore group. Some songs (like Landmine) are super fuckin tight, but some just feel very dated and average. I'm liking this overall, but yeah those clean vocals are so generic...

Album Rating: 2.5

I enjoyed The Mortal Coil more at first but this one will grow with time I'm sure. First listens were a little underwhelming as it does seem poppier.

Album Rating: 4.0

i believe when some of you say that there are a few very good songs, you don't mean the same items. this is exactly why i think that it is a very great work, the variety.

Album Rating: 5.0

I've never understood the use of "generic" as a descriptor of the actual quality of the music??



What about bands like Norma Jean, Architects, BMTH, Dayseeker? These are all "generic metalcore" bands too right? Yet they release far more enjoyable material than many "progressive" metalcore bands. Yea sure some of my favorite metalcore albums are probably stuff like The Elijah and Amia Venera but only because it also happens to be really good; and honestly some NJ albums for me aren't that far behind.

Album Rating: 4.0

It depends on the context where that word is used. Not all generic music instantly equals subtracted quality - although it's definitely less likely to be used in more positive connotations. A piece of music (I'll keep it specific to metalcore just to keep the idea flowing evenly) can be generic (and sound the same as the larger scene to which its described) but can be "done better", "more enjoyable" et al.



'Generic", by itself does help describe the music, but it's part and parcel of a bigger analysis that stems from the quality of others features... rather than the potential (or lack thereof) innovation shown by a piece of music.



Architects for a further example are generic metalcore, the quality descriptors invoked due to the fact they've been self-plagiarising themselves and the metalcore scene for the better part of 12 years. BMTH less so, due to their attempts to reinvent themselves - but they too fall into trappings of the trends they piggy back.



The take-away here is based on context. Not the separation and 'out of context' use of a few key words.

Album Rating: 5.0

Dude his entire post was "this seems like generic, run of the mill metalcore. i dont get the high ratings tbh". I didn't take any 'key few words' out of context from his 1 sentence of a few words lol.



The entire context of his post was that this album or band does not deserve to be rated highly because to him it is generic. Oh sorry, and also run of the mill. Which is just stating generic in a different way.



But, as per my original statement.. generic means diddly squat in terms of the actual enjoyment of the music in my opinion. Some of my personal favorite metalcore releases of past few years have been Greyhaven and Norma Jean. Fine, call those bands generic. I wouldn't really even argue against it, it's still top tier metalcore though. Generic doesn't mean anything. his post translates in to "this metalcore release sounds like metalcore therefore doesn't deserve to be rated highly"

Album Rating: 4.0

Sorry, I didn't realise you were responding to someone else there. Mostly because you didn't separate the text that would cause it to be read that way. I took it at face value. I'll be clear though - you've seemed to rather echo my point so...

Album Rating: 5.0

My bad for not making it more clear who I was directing that towards. Though in my defense this is a problem that could be easily avoided on like any other message board in the history of the internet lol.



It gets tough if not out right impossible to follow conversations especially when they start spanning multiple pages around here

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

That's why you put things you're responding to in quotes you fool

Album Rating: 2.5

@dreamagain

Album Rating: 3.5

"That's why you put things you're responding to in quotes you fool"



Steak knows the rules of Sput

Album Rating: 4.0

reordered the tracks 1. Hypermania 2.Landmine 3.Creatures of Habit 4.The Descent. putting these four together, life is better.

Album Rating: 5.0

Man this band almost gets better the further back you go in their disco . Wherever I may walk crushes anything off their LPs

Album Rating: 5.0

I got this from somewhere so dont want full credit I guess but... it doesnt matter if a song has a generic verse chorus structure etc. its what is done within those parts that determines the quality of the track as a whole

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Wherever I may walk crushes anything off their LPs [2]

Album Rating: 3.5

The highlights on this come pretty close imo.

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Not even close brother