Flying Lotus You're Dead!
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clercqie
October 14th 2014


6525 Comments


As well as the featured guests on the album, he did have a few session musicians in for recording

Yeah but see, I would assume those recordings are still post-processed via Ellison's audio software.

It's a great electronic album and I'm very impressed by some bits on it. But if he wants to prove himself as a "genius jazz artist" in the future, an heir to all the Davisses and Coltranes, he's gonna have to evolve towards a full live band, towards more improvisational stuff, and try to combine that with his hip-hop and beat-making influences.

Kinda what BBNG are doing atm as well, but they're not really there yet I think. Still too structurally rigid.

Chrisjon89
October 14th 2014


3833 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"he's gonna have to evolve towards a full live band, towards more improvisational stuff, and try to combine that with his hip-hop and beat-making influences."



I'd argue he's essentially done that here. there are tracks with a drummer, sax, guitar, Thundercat on bass, Herbie on keys. this is a good mix of live instruments and programmed stuff.



I'd also argue this is superior to a significant chunk of 70s- fusion. the early Miles stuff is excellent. Herbie's Mwandishi stuff likewise. very innovative, great production, great mood. and there are some similarities to that stuff on here, Herbie being a big link. but as the years went on, a lot of fusion was overly technical, overly long, focused on experimenting with different instruments/sounds. not always particularly great songwriting.



this draws a lot of the positive elements of that music, does it well, condenses it and combines it with stuff that's happening now. i'd rather this direction than looking completely to the past.

clercqie
October 14th 2014


6525 Comments


Basically what I'm arguing is what XLR8R said in their review as well:

Ellison recorded each instrument on the album separately, and it shows. Despite the record being heavily steeped in jazz, it's difficult to create or capture spontaneity when the players aren't riffing off each other in the moment.


But otherwise I agree in that I find You're Dead! also far more compelling than typical 70's fusion stuff.

BigPleb
October 14th 2014


65808 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Been told the clipping on this is horrendous.

clercqie
October 14th 2014


6525 Comments


It's pretty pronounced, yes.

Negator
October 14th 2014


1583 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

ya dead kid! ya dead!

ChoccyPhilly
October 14th 2014


13693 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Hold up, hold up. I have this bullet in my head

Gwyn.
October 14th 2014


17270 Comments


Been told the clipping on this is horrendous.


It can ruin the whole thing if it matters to you that much, yeah.


I just downloaded a v0 version so I'm hoping it was just the fact that I had a shitty leak

climactic
October 15th 2014


22921 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

shame about the clipping, didnt bother me too much until you guys started mentioning it

tommygun
October 15th 2014


27148 Comments


why do they continue to master albums this way :[

Xar
October 15th 2014


1652 Comments


Say it ain't so, Jac. D:

Tho I'm pretty sure I'm not such a stickler for production.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
October 15th 2014


70256 Comments


i mean the production on this certainly has nothing on the new dot hacker!!!

clercqie
October 15th 2014


6525 Comments


I just downloaded a v0 version so I'm hoping it was just the fact that I had a shitty leak

Even the vinyl version for this sounds squashed. But I'm pretty sure it's intentional. FlyLo even quipped about it on a facebook update regarding the stream for the album.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
October 15th 2014


70256 Comments


flylo is pretty much the best producer of the last decade pretty sure it sounds exactly how he wanted it to

which works for me cuz i think the production matches the album perfectly

Tyler.
October 15th 2014


19035 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Never really LOVED this guy so I'm not to eager to check tbh

Lord(e)Po)))ts
October 15th 2014


70256 Comments


yeah flylo should have shipped it off to Wilson after he finished so he could polish it off

Lord(e)Po)))ts
October 15th 2014


70256 Comments


agreed on both accounts

Chrisjon89
October 15th 2014


3833 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"the production on this album was abysmal"



the mixing and production are fine. both excellent. mastering not so great but it's still an easy listen. Death Magnetic, Iggy's mix for the remastered Raw Power, Shiina Ringo's Shouso Strip - the dynamic range is awful on those. it's not too bad on this. still a lot of subtle stuff in these mixes

ChoccyPhilly
October 15th 2014


13693 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"tbh the mixing on this isn't even that bad"



agreed. I can't imagine it being anything other than the way it is

Lord(e)Po)))ts
October 15th 2014


70256 Comments


anyone listen to the instrumental version? pretty cool. couple tracks are expanded and you really notice a lot of instrumentation that you wouldn't with the vocals



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