Perhaps so, you would expect that a lot of people would be open to Jazz here given the popularity of prog rock and technical metal.
I think that A Love Supreme and The Black Saint are a lot less accessible than other classics. Saxophone Colossus being under 200 ratings is puzzling.
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Album Rating: 4.0
I think A Love Supreme is a bit more accessible because of how short it is. And Black Saint is pretty short too right? But if I recall correctly, both are just 4 or 5 long songs so I guess that makes it hard to have a single or "standout" track. Those are probably my top 2 jazz albums tbh
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Album Rating: 4.5
I don't think it's puzzling at all
the classics that became classic had their own appeals and reasons for such time-honored reverence. the userbase here was never huge to make most of them pass 200-300 ratings though, of course Davis, Coltrane, and Mingus were some exceptions since their names were thrown around the most for decades. we had users like liledman (google his jazz lists) that made efforts to push jazz on here more. while those lists caught few eyes, they made lasting impact on those that cared. Fire! Orchestra prob wouldn't be as huge without jazzheads keeping up like that.
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@buttboy
Try and explain Bitches Brew then - haha.
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Album Rating: 4.5
fckin jazz rock man
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*fusion . It's dense as fuck and almost 2 hours long.
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Album Rating: 4.5
literally the same thing back in 1970
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^sure, but it isn't in hindsight
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Album Rating: 4.5
far as I care, I'm still talkin within historical context
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Sure, I just highlight the difference because I have never agreed with the idea that it is a go-to jazz album for rock fans. Even if it is said to be a bestseller for that very reason. It makes some sense at the end of the 60s when popular music was at its most experimental point but not today.
There are jazz rock albums that are closer to rock music than Bitches Brew.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Yeah bitches brew's popularity is confounding, but I'm glad it's popular. Though I'll admit it doesn't do a ton for me, which may sound like heresy. It's technically good, but I'm never in the mood to listen to it.
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^I personally find Bitches Brew to be less penetrable than many free-jazz albums. Probably the length
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Album Rating: 4.0
I do not really like the fusion records at all, mostly I'm never in the mood for them. I'm super happy they exist though, because the few days in the year when I crave for some dense music there's nothing better.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Blue Train is an excellent jazz starter record, the music is great and it outlines a lot of the common characteristics/structures of bop pretty clearly
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Album Rating: 5.0
Before I read the previous comment, I was about to recommend "Blue Train" as a perfect jazz starter record. Great minds think alike....
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Album Rating: 4.5
Quite so (:
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Album Rating: 4.0
It's true. Great record to start with, whereas Giant Steps is so technical that it can hurt your brain. Very different beasts, both fantastic.
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Album Rating: 5.0
When you're talking about a singular genius such as John Coltrane, everything he's done cannot be considered any less than fantastic.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Especially that run of albums in 1961, oof
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I'm glad my complete ignorance of jazz could bear such a fruitful discussion
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