holy shit you guys are so wrong.

"ALA you give too many 2s, at least change them to 3s. your threshold for 2 is too low. what you call is a 2 is what most of us call 2.8"

Not really I mean, a 2 basically means I like 40% or around that percentage of the album, which is accurate when you account for the production and maybe one or two songs. I think MX ironically enough did a very good job of accurately describing scores, I think most users are actually the ones with an improper rating system but that's just me. 2.0 is poor because it means you like less than 50% of the work, and I do.

Pretty much a 2.0 is = Is it hard to finish? Are the lyrics meh? Are the concepts badly executed? Is it still somewhat enjoyable to a very small extent? Are a few songs okay at least?

if so 2.0.

I mean it's all really just how you personally view numerical scores but when someone sees me 2.5 an album I don't want them to think it's completely worthless, same with a 3. If I look at someone 2.5ing an album, or even 3'ing it on sput, I stay the FUCK AWAY. By being stricter I feel I'm showing the value of albums in the positive range(3+) lot more.

It's really just your personal system though, I'm only saying this cause you brought it up lol.

music is 90% production

personally, and I KNOW this will sound crazy, but I listen to music for, ya know, the music.........

so all lo-fi music just garb to you?

"personally, and I KNOW this will sound crazy, but I listen to music for, ya know, the music........."

music is 90% production

Snake that edit really hurt my feelings ; (

depends, if you are being lo-fi for the sake of being lo-fi, probably.

yeah but the building ambience on this album (aka the production) is why I like it man, in fact I'm sure that's why a whole lot of people like this. the prodction on this is way way way more evident than any of their other albums

and what I should say about "90% production" is I mean to me 90% of the enjoyment I get from music is the sounds and notes that are entering my eardrums, not the words. If I cared more about words I'd just read a damn book

fair enough man. if that's why you like it, cool, good for you. I think a lot of people really connect with the lyrics and themes here, and the angsty emotional outlet of the vocals and guitars just help to express those emotions felt. But I can understand enjoying this for the production.

yeah a lot of people do like this for the themes and lyrics for sure, but to me that's not why this album is amazing, I like the actual songs.

Album Rating: 5.0

I never pay much attention to production values, unless it's really bad, or really good. I enjoy this album for it's emotional delivery. I also enjoy this album because it's the kind of music that clicks with me, and gives me goosebumps when I listen to it. The production on it is great, but it's not something I'd note as being a reason I 5'd it

"yeah a lot of people do like this for the themes and lyrics for sure, but to me that's not why this album is amazing, I like the actual songs."

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okay but again the production is not "the actual songs" haha. Anyways this is going in circles so w/e

I hope one day you realize everything you say makes 0 sense to anyone else you speak to

like your arguements/points are just jumbled words

I highly doubt you look at your keyboard when you type/have eyes

Album Rating: 4.5

i'm crying holy shit

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

came to this thread hoping to see a hot take. Was not disappointed

Album Rating: 4.5

six would know it's his livelihood