"sput has a large userbase"
not anymore tbh. at least, the active userbase is pretty small these days.
and i mean, of course there's appreciation for other genres, but you'd be lying if you said there was no perceivable bias towards metal.

Album Rating: 4.0

"The fantastical stuff that I can't relate to"



you listen to thrash, and yet not being able to relate to the topics is an issue for you? lol what?

it's a preference thing.

is it that hard to understand? (?_?)

Album Rating: 5.0

You're making that assumption for me, I said no such thing.



I said that his reasoning suggests to me that he dislikes metal, as in I don't know if he actually did or not; that was simply the impression I was getting.



Someone who down votes this is no less a troll than someone who 5's it after one spin without being able to explain why.



This is discussion thread. If I were to just go with "well opinions can't really be explained" then there would be hardly any reason to talk to anyone ever. I want to understand.



As far as your posts so far Pratt, I appreciate you going into some detail, but I'm still a bit surprised as this album has many of the best qualities of bands like Death and Metallica, which you seem to like.

Album Rating: 2.5

Bad lyrics can ruin stuff, good lyrics can boost stuff. If the music is good and the melodies are good It matters less... I don't really listen to thrash these days, a lot of it's grown off me. used to LOVE Slayer when I was a teen, most it is laughable to me now, just the way it goes

Album Rating: 5.0

Why is it laughable though? Music doesn't have to be super cereal all the time to be good does it?

Album Rating: 4.0

"Bad lyrics can ruin stuff, good lyrics can boost stuff."



yeah this is true but thats not what im talking about, you said they werent "relatable". which i just found funny because how many thrash songs have relatable lyrics? thrash isnt about making an emotional connection with the lyrics.

"I said no such thing."
you didn't need to. you implied it.
"I want to understand."
then don't look for a reason to rebut every reason he gives you. i mean, for fucks sake, the only one here preventing your understanding is you and your own pigheadedness.

sach out. pce.

Album Rating: 5.0

"you impled it"



Still got it backwards. You assumed.

Album Rating: 4.0

"Why is it laughable though? Music doesn't have to super cereal all the time to be good does it?"



agreed, a lot of metal lyrics are bad but in a fun way. i enjoy them like i would enjoy a cheesy horror movie.

Album Rating: 2.5

Nah it doesn't, and it can grow back on too, Just listening to songs about corpses, nuclear warfare and blood and mutilation etc it's just like "goddamn man" sometimes ya know.



regarding vektor.. I guess this record just doesn't appeal to me and it's probably not supposed to, that's cool. I might even delete my rating after all this cause the more i think about it the more i realise it's hard for me to have an "objective" opinion after startiing my first listen with a "show me" attitude after seeing the rating. I'm gonna put it in the bank and listen to it when I'm more in a metal mood. with that said, It's still just so damn long lol that almost never works in an albums favor for me

Album Rating: 3.0

Still a large userbase.

Album Rating: 5.0

I'm not even talking about the lyrics specifically, I mean if that's really important to you in your music then yeah you should probably look elsewhere lol.



Again, I'm not "looking for reasons" I'm just thinking and talking. If Patt means that the super fast riffing and the yelling and the drummer being all over the place just send silly to him I can understand that. But I don't know if that's what he's saying or if he just has this attitude of being above such things taste-wise



Edit: See Patt is engaging me, even if he can't be as specific as I would like him to be, he's made a clear effort to explain his opinion at this point. That's really all I wanted. Thank you Patt.

Album Rating: 3.5

this portalofperfection dude still can't take someone not liking this, and now y'all pretending ur not tryna take away their metalhead-credentials smh

Album Rating: 3.5

"if u don't like it look elsewhere!" oh my god are we doing this rn

Asdfp dropping truth bombs

Album Rating: 5.0

Never mind I misread that.



I don't know shit about "metal cred", I don't have any.

Album Rating: 3.5

what is metal cred....

Album Rating: 3.5

no it's u who's tryna take other people's metalhead-identification away cuz they don't like ur pet-peeve album, chill.u even went to that list about ratings lower than 2.0, just to complain about it



we're music nerds, we're supposed to be curious and try new stuff, and we gotta be honest with ourselves. if he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it, and has every right to rate it accordingly, nobody needs to have u tell them what they do and don't listen to because they don't like ur super fav album 4ver, chill