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Sowing
Moderator
April 3rd 2022


45677 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It doesn't sound pristine, but it's pop-punk



¯|_(ツ)_/¯

rabidfish
April 3rd 2022


9058 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Bro I'm so sorry about your ears, I didn't know that's fuck up 😔

notagenius
April 3rd 2022


1283 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Thank you Johnny for the answer



The bad production is more obvious in: the beginning of Relentless, the second half of Four Chords, and also in Totally Fine I'd be devastated if I paid too much attention to the drums.

nol
April 3rd 2022


12280 Comments


production value is subjective, duh

Sowing
Moderator
April 3rd 2022


45677 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I can think of some albums where the production is so shoddy that it detracts from the experience (this is often the case with low budget productions and/or demos), but I don't get that from this. If the production is off, it must be competitively minor. Either that or I've officially lost all my marbles.

decisions
April 3rd 2022


1247 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

As a lifelong drummer I have tried to get through this three times and can declare the album as basically unlistenable



New Taking Meds was a way better entry in the melodic self-deprecating punk subgenre. Production there is top-notch

nol
April 3rd 2022


12280 Comments


as a lifelong drummer i

notagenius
April 3rd 2022


1283 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's more like a technical failure than a stylisation. It definitely diminishes the listenability of the album. I am not sure about the attitude of most bands, but if it were me, I would be very critical of the production. Punk and indie albums can be just as much about detail and effects as they can be about the listening experience. At least I'd like to go for a higher experience in this genre myself. But I have a feeling that most punk/indie bands don't take the production piece very seriously and the industry standard is a bit scattered and uninteresting now.

JayEnder
April 3rd 2022


22918 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Pretty sure they made this sound messy and ugly on purpose.



Agreed though that Stefan's vocals NEEDED to be raised in this mix, dear lord. It is a bad production job no doubt, but it doesn't detract from the album. At least for me.

nol
April 3rd 2022


12280 Comments


as a lifelong dingus i

Sowing
Moderator
April 3rd 2022


45677 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

His vocals don't seem low in the mix to me. I admittedly don't pay much attention to drumming unless it's either really good or very bad, but this didn't strike me as either. I'm actually tired of belaboring the point as I know perception of production is subjective, but I haven't encountered a really concrete and tangible extraction of what the production issues actually are so that I can attempt to be more critical of the album myself. I've just heard the vocals are too low which I disagree with and the rest of the complaints have been really vague.

notagenius
April 3rd 2022


1283 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

sowing This was my mistake, I should have encouraged ignoring them more than bringing attention to them.



The album is great, an effective trail for a band towards a mature state of mind. this is the most important thing.

Sowing
Moderator
April 4th 2022


45677 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I mean I appreciate the explanation, I just don't hear it haha. I'll leave it alone now.

JohnnyoftheWell
April 4th 2022


64287 Comments


fuck colton potentially made a point and I was too busy scrounging for wifi to acknowledge it cuff me
and yeah, this album basically sounds like shit but tbqh pup are grotty enough to take that in their stride (other than the first verse/chorus and shitsolo of Waiting, which no band could ever pull off). the fatal part is that the lyrics don't have the oomph to live up to it and a worrying handful of chorus melodies have maybe lost their edge, further research needed. idk, there are a load of hooks and pithyangry "barbs" that are just limp :[[[[

nol
April 4th 2022


12280 Comments


Colton just remix the album yourself, production guru

nol
April 4th 2022


12280 Comments


Remix it on your stem player

JohnnyoftheWell
April 4th 2022


64287 Comments


trademark colotn snare tone plz

nol
April 4th 2022


12280 Comments


with a hint of moody, ambient pads

madrigal30
April 4th 2022


1592 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i would remix this if i had the stems

nol
April 4th 2022


12280 Comments


this is growing on me. already like it more than MS I think



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