Album Rating: 3.5

Lazy, yes. I'd drawn the line at 'irresponsible' personally, but I can see your point that better (or any) research could've been considered before making potentially misleading statements.



I've always preferred lyrical content to be somewhat ambiguous, that way you don't have any immersion breaking moments caused by such clumsiness (amongst other things).

Album Rating: 3.5

yeh i think he could have backed off on some of the detail and there would be no problem - generic "apocalyptic" climate change lyrics a la "when the sun burns red" or something

anyway i doubt dani is actually eco-fash i don't think it's really something the kids are into these days lmao

Album Rating: 3.4

I need to give this more listens. Really enjoying it so far, but not as much as the last two. What song would be the standout track (like "Deflowering the Maidenhead, Displeasuring the Goddess" and "Wester Vespertine" from the previous albums). I need the song that just sticks immediately and stands out from the rest of the album. I'm not hearing one on this...

Album Rating: 4.5

Enjoyed this as much as their last two, if not more. Will spin it more times this week for sure. Like others said it's incredible the quality this band is puting out so late into their career. Good for Dani.

On the other hand I find quite amusing that people are getting scandalized about a band's lyrics. I'm not going to enter a debate about freedom of speech but I'm pretty sure there are way worse subliminal (and not so subliminal) messages in bigger platforms (such as mass media, Netflix, etc...) Art is a form of expression and you don't have to take it, you don't like the message and that's a problem for you? Don't listen to it, as simple as that haha. It's not like I've been seeing CoF promoted on every billboard or commercial pause lol

Album Rating: 4.0

Climate stuff really triggers a certain demographic. It's mostly boomers, but we get a few here too.

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

yeah you damn goat stop eating all the grass and stinking up the earth eat more mice

Album Rating: 4.2

I believe that in one way or another most artists have already addressed environmental issues, it's a pressing issue. But that's certainly not what I think about when I listen to these guys as opposed to a band like Gojira, for example.

Album Rating: 3.5

nah it's depressing when it's a band i like and the idea in question is a 200 year old, long-debunked myth

Album Rating: 4.0

But mah escapism!

Album Rating: 3.5

i think the problem is that the song in question has a pretty specific take that is also not generally in line with most of their lyrical themes. it is hard not to notice it and i can't help but feel it doesn't serve the album and comes off as trite and stupid. obviously it's not as bad as NSBM and stuff but it's still not an original nor a well thought out theme

Album Rating: 4.2

I'm not sure I'm following you here. Overpopulation is a myth?

Album Rating: 4.0

Existential Terror is a highlight.

Album Rating: 4.5

Yes. Coincidentally, I am listening to it now.

Album Rating: 4.5

What this album does better than the previous two imo is a unified sound across the entire runtime without sacrificing a good degree of variety

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah I think so too. It's very coherent, yet not monotonous at all. Quite adventurous even for them.



I love it.

Album Rating: 3.5

@ notrap - overpopulation as a root cause of climate change is a myth, or at least stating that is it a primary cause is. overpopulation can cause issues with living conditions, but it isn't a direct cause of climate change. practices of urbanisation, industry and energy are bigger contributors. in most developed nations high populations exacerbate these issues, but it is kind of throwing the baby out with the bathwater; instead of adjusting methods in industry or holding people in charge of the systems that contribute to emissions the most to account, blaming "overpopulation" is holding people with less control over their ways of living responsible. ultimately modern society is demanding of certain tools for our current systems (phones, internet, transport, housing, ect) so it is obviously unreasonable to expect that people should totally stop using those things and live in some kind of unabomber esque forest dwelling existence



it also unfairly places blame on indigenous peoples who have no connection to these main contributing factors and who usually have more sustainable lifestyles. hence "eco-fascism" refers to groups who view overpopulation as a primary cause and who believe that totalitarian rule/exterminationist practices would be necessary to prevent those issues. unfortunately dani's lyrics are somewhat close to that although obviously he isn't saying that it'd be down to governments, instead saying that nature itself is taking "its revenge" in a way.



it's basically just clumsy, not explicitely "eco-fash", but is based on outdated malthusian ideas

Album Rating: 3.5

i realize that this is probably a stupid discussion to have for a cradle of filth thread but hey ho

i realized i'm not smart enough to responsibly listen to Cradle of Filth anymore - thank you for your service.

Album Rating: 3.5

my condolences

Album Rating: 4.5

@CottonSalad hahaha! Best comment I've read in a long time

@Madbutcher3 It's a fascinating topic and trust me when I tell you it's not absolutely debunked, altough I think I would align more towards your position. The challenging argument is that overpopulation leads to worse urbanisation, industry and energy practices, and my experience tells me this is true. Now for the solution we would have to talk in other forums because it's a pretty complex topic that would require a long debate/conversation. All I can say is that my experience has taught me that the smaller and closer to nature the community is the more sustainable it gets. Big cities as we all know them are doomed imho.