Album Rating: 2.5

“At this point there is no debate about the innovation and influence Forever had on the hardcore scene. It happened. The sound bands like Vein, Jesus Piece, Loathe, and more, had on their latest records are all examples of the influence Code Orange had.”



This is the main problem with code orange fan boys, thinking literally everything they do is brand new and not done before. Probably not even knowing bands like disembodied who started this all off over 20 years ago.



Also influencing vein? Have a listen to their self destruct demo which came out a year before forever, I think both vein and Jesus piece had pretty much made their own sound before forever even came out.

I really dig the glitchy stuff

Album Rating: 4.0

the silly nine inch nails influence is killing these guys

They lack cohesiveness and creativity in their songwriting, just a chuggy over the top band

Album Rating: 1.5

kinda shocked by p4k giving this a 4.5/10

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

Why are people including that loathe band in conversations about hardcore I legitimately do not understand

Album Rating: 3.0

"At this point there is no debate about the innovation and influence Forever had on the hardcore scene. It happened. The sound bands like Vein, Jesus Piece, Loathe, and more, had on their latest records are all examples of the influence Code Orange had"



Bro Jesus Piece pretty much found their sound in 2015, also Loathe is 200% more influenced by Deftones and Glass Cloud than Code Orange imo.....

How are people giving this a 2.0 and lower yet Loathe gets a 4.0-4.5 I know they're a different music style but Loathe uses so many deftone/glass cloud influences yet everyone mad that this sounds too much like Nine inch nails. people being toxic against code orange since Forever just because they made one statement about "Shaking up the boring metal world" guys come on that was like 3 years ago

Album Rating: 4.0

Honestly I can understand the complaints about this but I'm still really into it. The clipping production and some disjointed songs are the worst parts for me. But man some of this shit really fucking slaps!

Album Rating: 2.0

I really love the Sulfur Surrounding video. And I really like Reba's cleans. Cant really say anything else positive about this album tho.

Album Rating: 2.0

I 1.5d this because it’s disjointed as fuck and the vocals are terrible.

The tough guy bullshit is just shit icing on the ass cake.

Album Rating: 2.0

I mean, I don't hear NIN in this. If this was more like NIN I'd probably fucking love it cause that's one of my all time favorite bands. This sounds like fuckin Slipknot. Adding some industrial shit and glitches does not mean it sounds like NIN. Also yea the vox are terrible.



Oh and I never heard Forever because I Am King was so lame that I skipped that one.

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Personally speaking, Forever is much better than I Am King.

I didn't care for I Am King that much, but Forever was great.

Album Rating: 2.5

Code Orange do mix in NIN, Slipknot, and Converge influences. I hear it. But they mix in the worst and best of those sounds with some amateur production and song-writing sensibilities. That's their problem.

Album Rating: 2.0

They're just lame

Album Rating: 4.0

The clipping was off putting in the one song, but i love the album. I loved Forever even more. Haters g //// hate.

gAteKeEp

Album Rating: 4.0

It must people that people don't actually listen to music or just want to be contrarians. All these people telling me that Code Orange's forever didn't influence the genre are citing examples that don't have the electronic and production aspects at all. Disembodied? Vein EP? The point is going way over your heads.

Album Rating: 1.5

vein's EP was before Forever cmon man make your point factual at least

Album Rating: 4.0

The Vein EP doesn't have anything that Forever brought to the table. Errorzone does. I am actually stunned by people's inability to understand.