I dunno if im missing something in listening to this, because I love Machina but this is pretty sub-par for pumpkins. I was stoked for the near-full reunion; clearly was not something worth getting my hopes up for. Just returned to Oceania. Best new pumpkins release.
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Album Rating: 2.5
Rick Rubin overpolished it into another Rick Rubin pop album instead of letting Bill, James & Jimmy just sound like Bill, James & Jimmy
At least that's what I like to think happened here. & yeah, Machina rules
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Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off
I miss the days Machina was considered an awful Pumpkins album
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I don't know of those days; Machina was always good. Different but a welcomed departure. I miss that low end reverb heavy sound to be honest.
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Album Rating: 2.5
Machina, both 1 and 2, have always been fantastic albums. Anyone who disagrees is a fool. That's just the way it is. No ifs, ands, buts, or Corgans about it
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Was Machina 2 ever released to the public? I've never heard it.
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Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off
'Machina' was never 'a welcomed departure' back in 2000 - it was roundly panned
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Album Rating: 2.5
I think Machina's pretty great in parts tbh - some absolute stinkers though like Ghost and the Glass Children
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Album Rating: 1.5 | Sound Off
'Adore' wasn't exactly loved, more misunderstood, and so 'Machina' was marketed as a 'return to rock'...but it confirmed to most people the Pumpkins were now second tier. They were right.
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Album Rating: 3.3
Tbh I still come back to Solara, that's a solid jam, was awesome live too
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Album Rating: 2.5
That and Ghosts are the only worthwhile things here
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Album Rating: 2.5
I wanted to like this, I do to an extent but it just sounds bland. Overall it works though. I believe i'm the only fan that likes Alienation lol. SAYSD and Solara are other favorites off here.
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Album is pretty good. Doesn’t deserve an average that low.
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Album Rating: 3.3
I agree but its def their worst
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Album Rating: 2.5
I should probably listen to this seeing as I’m a big fan of the Pumpkins going back 20 years and I have it on CD...I guess nervous to because I’ve heard it’s really bad. Silvery Sometimes was decent but Solaris is a fucking bore.
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Album Rating: 3.3
its kinda lame but idk i like it
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As far as mixing goes, this is much nicer than monuments or Oceania. Those albums have cool songs but the mixing is balls compared to this
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Album Rating: 2.5
Monuments is definitely their worst imo (Tiberius is fantastic though). So slight and short, more a longer EP than an album. I’m afraid this album will unseat it. Many say Zeitgeist is their worst but that album has some good stuff (about a 3).
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Album Rating: 3.3
Um no, Monuments has tons of gems on it. I really like Zeitgeist too
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Album Rating: 2.5
I could never get into Monuments personally. What’s your least fav SP album — this?
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