No. Imagine if BTBAM played songs that weren't boring. The technicality is similar in places but they are playing such different music that it's hard to compare. THe song writing is better and they are many times more insane live while still being accurate.

"I missed a DEP show a few weeks ago.. Still kicking my own *** because of it.... They won't come to denmark again for a long time I'm guessing..



I heard they still play songs from the EP live? Is that true?.. I'd love to hear if their new singer can keep up with patton."

just to sya i saw dillinger a year ago and it was amazing! and yes greg is wel lup to speed with patton, they did "when good dogs do bad things"

Album Rating: 3.5

so.



yeah.



this is good. and by a good i mean real good

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I wanna get this CD

I'm yet to get into Dillinger. Are they similiar at all to BTBAM? And if they are, how much? Needless to say, I'm in love with Alaska. And I have a suspicion that I may enjoy this too. Although it sounds slightly more chaotic than I'm into.

Album Rating: 4.0

I just started listening to these guys, but i like this CD alot better than the stuff ive heard from their older CDs. That may be because im a whore for good production when it comes to newer bands, and i barely gave the other stuff any time. I like this baby though.

Album Rating: 3.0

I've recently realized this isn't as good as I thought it was. Most of the tracks are just too generic and plodding.

Album Rating: 4.5

It's a great album.



Listen to the portion in 'Sunshine the Werewolf' (the actual subject matter of the song is quite disturbing) where Greg sings something along the lines of "swim to shore."



The double-bass in the back is some of the fastest I've ever heard.

Album Rating: 3.5

Have you heard of a little group called Cryptopsy?

Album Rating: 4.5

I have, and have heard good things.



Never listened to them, though.



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Album Rating: 4.5

This album is fucking awsome



I dont really understand why people hate the new singer so much He seems way more varied than Dimitri

Album Rating: 4.5

After repeated listens I've decided that this album is the perfect mix of technical insanity and melody (oh they're there).

I listened to this for the first time today and it drove me insane. This is great music to listen to when you're really pissed off, but I definitely couldn't listen to this on a regular basis.

I agree Zebra, this is certainly anger music... Most grind is like that Ive heard several songs from this album, and really enjoyed all of them.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I don't consider them really grind.

Yeah, come to think of it I agree. Well, Im not really a grind expert anyway.

I wouldnt consider these guys grind either. I am no "expert" at grind myself, nor am i at any genre for that matter. I typically enjoy grind, but DEP certainly is not that. Anyway, this album is 3/5 in my book, the singer is just a bit too refined for my taste. I prefer Calculating Infinity a little bit more, the vocals are more raw and passionate in my opinion.

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

I'm gonna strike with more of my 'Cravinov BS subgenre theorys", but I would simply clal them the purest form of math-core, which (as far as they are concerned), mixes hints of grind with hardcore punk and post-hardcore, bits of metalcore and screamo, and hint of industrial all composed with distinct time signatures that equal mathcore.

I still have to listen to this band.

Album Rating: 5.0

I have to say this. I loved "Calulating Infinity" but this album is alot better. Not only did they reinforce the 100MPH stop on a dime Technical Metal extravaganza...but they showed us they were not a one trick pony.



They grew as musicians and song writers. In this album we have extreme dynamics...moments of beauty, where there are more visable influences: flamenco, electronica, punk, jazz, and rock. Greg's vocals took awhile to get used too, but man this guy suits the band better then Patton. Yea Patton is a musical genius, but he really didn't explore. Sure he's yelling, singing in falsetto and other vocal styles...but it got predictable. Miss Machine...vocally speaking, is more natural and emotional.



I gave this album a 5...I listened to it for 6 hours straight on an airplane when I got it (roughly just after it came out), and it has not left it's spot in my car's play list. It's a true classic. Calculating Infinity gets redundant after awhile but this album is so diverse it makes it that much better.