Album Rating: 2.5

There's been plenty of awful fanboy/girls come after you Jas but this one could be the easiest to discredit yet lol.

I'm pretty sure that guy is a troll, and he's not good at it. (just look at the ratings)

Album Rating: 2.5

No Rik, there's really people that inept in the VK scene.

My ears are burning. I know better than to needlessly mess with fans of Newspaper.

Album Rating: 2.0

these guys are always writing in letters to the editor man it's fucking nuts

When I start a band, I'm going to make sure it attracts an illiterate fandom. I'll call it MMA or something.

Album Rating: 2.0

that'd be a good hip-hop crew, ILLiteracy

ILLiteracy. Very popular with mILLenials.

Album Rating: 2.5

U just g0t TR0000LL33D xD

Album Rating: 2.5

Do VK fanbois/fangurls get this triggered when someone (rightfully so) trashes their favorite VK band and/or albums? I guess they do...

Album Rating: 1.0

The X band copied Y band can be applied to nearly any band. Your claim that the GazettE is a DEG copy has nearly no merit since their sounds and musical approaches are completely different. They're not even on the same planet, each has a distinct sound and each is free to choose which he likes, but to say one is better than the other because one copied the other is more than a stretch, youre trying to do the splits across the grand canyon with that argument.



the GazettE has always had a particularly interesting sound. If you didn't enjoy Stacked Rubbish than their sound is probably not right for you. The album had a ton of classics, Hyena, Agony, Ganges ni akai barra, calm envy (10/10 ballad with fantastic guitar work), Gentle Lie (once again 10/10 guitar work) nearly every other song on there was great.



Gazette uses a cool fusion of different genres in their music often throwing in a jazzy/funky sound with a bluesy flavor of hard rock a la Psychedelic Heroine, katherine in the trunk, Last Bouquet off, ganges ni akai, and namakashi off nil and so on.



They're use of acoustic guitars is also more interesting (DLN, Last Heaven)



Listening to DEG and the GazettE there really is no comparison unless you consider the new albums you put out which do not define their sound at all, I'm talking about their entire body of work not the last two albums where theyve been on this project dark age garbage which basically means lets play heavy trash rock like everybody else.



Their music from 2003-2011 is solid and spot on, from then on it becomes less consistent as they pursue more mainstream avenues, even then, they still have tons of gems.



For example the latest Undying single has fantastic work from the guitar department, the arrangement of transitions, especially the third song VACANT which is superb.



Other than Lucy and Grudge (deracine has some nice riffs) this album is absolute garbage and a complete testament to what happens when you leave your sound.



Judging the gazette off this album and even the last one wouldn't really be fair to the tons of gold these guys have put out. Also anyone who considers themselves a fan of the gazette and thinks Dogma and Beautiful Deformity were strong are posers and not fans of this band.



I would extend that criticism to people like you who are saying that they are DEG copies. If you listened to their music, the strongest influence you can find is actually a more evolved Luna Sea sound w/ heavier sound (Hyena by gazette is a remix of the main riff off G by Luna Sea but played in Drop B instead of standard tuning like G)

Album Rating: 2.5

inb4 Jas with links and example..





"The X band copied Y band can be applied to nearly any band."

I think Mastodon copied the GanjA.



Btw, I lost the bet Calc. See you on Dubtrack.

Album Rating: 3.5

Mhmm, another one of these again. Along with what has been said, I am not sure if this person knows that Gazette members used to be Dir en grey roadies, just as Kyo used to be a Kuroyume roadie long ago (and it's pretty obvious their early material is influenced by them, among other bands).

Album Rating: 2.0

damn you're certainly giving me a lot of material to work with, though I don't know how much new stuff i'll have to say



"The X band copied Y band can be applied to nearly any band. Your claim that the GazettE is a DEG copy has nearly no merit since their sounds and musical approaches are completely different. "



nah, nah, nah, there's inspiration and then there's obvious mimicry. The GazettE's approach is very similar to Vulgar/Six Ugly era Dir En Grey, but GazettE are way more straight forward and complacent with their writing.



"the GazettE has always had a particularly interesting sound. If you didn't enjoy Stacked Rubbish than their sound is probably not right for you. The album had a ton of classics, Hyena, Agony, Ganges ni akai barra, calm envy (10/10 ballad with fantastic guitar work), Gentle Lie (once again 10/10 guitar work) nearly every other song on there was great."



I mean yeah sure, if you'd never fucking heard anything else that sounded like this before. But when you've been listening to this kind of vk shit like I have for long enough you start to notice it bleeds and awful lot and their all pretty uniform with their sounds, particularly within the metal/alt-rock side of vk. And also nah Stacked Rubbish is just a shit album, not necessarily that it's not my thing.



"Gazette uses a cool fusion of different genres in their music often throwing in a jazzy/funky sound with a bluesy flavor of hard rock a la Psychedelic Heroine, katherine in the trunk, Last Bouquet off, ganges ni akai, and namakashi off nil and so on."



yeah, not that out there, fusion's been a staple of the vk scene for a very long time. And for the neo-vk groups, I find Nightmare do the jazz/funk flavour better.

Album Rating: 2.0

gimmie a minute there are character limits on these things

Album Rating: 2.0

"They're use of acoustic guitars is also more interesting (DLN, Last Heaven)"



fuck off



"Listening to DEG and the GazettE there really is no comparison unless you consider the new albums you put out which do not define their sound at all, I'm talking about their entire body of work not the last two albums where theyve been on this project dark age garbage which basically means lets play heavy trash rock like everybody else."



I really don't fucking care about their other albums, the review is about Dogma



"Their music from 2003-2011 is solid and spot on, from then on it becomes less consistent as they pursue more mainstream avenues, even then, they still have tons of gems."



cool, but I don't care (nor do i agree)



"For example the latest Undying single has fantastic work from the guitar department, the arrangement of transitions, especially the third song VACANT which is superb."



I disagree



"Other than Lucy and Grudge (deracine has some nice riffs) this album is absolute garbage and a complete testament to what happens when you leave your sound. "



you have it 3.5'd



"Judging the gazette off this album and even the last one wouldn't really be fair to the tons of gold these guys have put out. Also anyone who considers themselves a fan of the gazette and thinks Dogma and Beautiful Deformity were strong are posers and not fans of this band."



I've heard all of their albums



"I would extend that criticism to people like you who are saying that they are DEG copies. If you listened to their music, the strongest influence you can find is actually a more evolved Luna Sea sound w/ heavier sound (Hyena by gazette is a remix of the main riff off G by Luna Sea but played in Drop B instead of standard tuning like G) "



again, I've fucking heard all of their albums, and yeah pretty much everyone borrows heavily from Luna Sea as well so that doesn't surprise me.

Album Rating: 1.0

So youre only comeback is that nightmare does funk jazz better when that's all they're known for and pretty much their entire selling point. Lol



You're comment about stacked is just you're opinion, so it's irrelevant objectively.



Youve just admitted that all the bands in the vk scene share similar sound. No shit sherlock thats been my point this entire time. Wow Japanese bands in Japan in the same scene have a somewhat similar sound. What's next anyone who plays guitar is a jimi hendrix rip off. Lol my work here is done.



If you're review is about dogma stick to reviewing dogma and not bullshitting about how you know such n such band is stealing from your beloved deg because you say so.



Also all the plebs here defending you are die hard deg fans coming to circle Jerk and then talking about unreasonable fan boys, oh the hypocrisy is gold.

Album Rating: 2.0

fuck me you're dense.



that is not Nightmare's selling point, nor is it what they're known for.



umm, so's your opinion you fucking knob



again, inspiration =/= mimicry



I'm pretty sure I remember providing examples of where I felt this album was a little too similar for comfort to DeG's more recent output, but sure.



yeah the other guys definitely like DeG more than I do but that would imply that they'd have an even better idea of how similar this band is

Album Rating: 1.0

That's not nightmare's selling point? That's not what makes them distinctly unique is their syncopated jazz rhythms and bluesy/funky style? LOL



Take your head out of the sand and you'd notice that both DEG and Gazette's recent releases are all similar to the trash metal scene that you and the plebs here are fans of. It's not a new sound, bands like megadeth, metallica, and trash slayer and the like have been doing this sound for years. It is not new, it is not exclusive to DEG, it is not their "unique" discovery.



Inspiration and mimicry aren't the same thing, Gazette is not mimicing DEG, they're both copying western metal including european metal that has been doing this shit since the late 80's and 90s.



I listened to DEG's most recent album, they sound nothing alike. You literally must think every metal album sounds like DEG if you thought Dogma sounded like DEG.

Album Rating: 2.0

yeah I mean it's something they do but I wouldn't say it's all their known for.



at no point did I imply that I was ignorant to the fact that Dir En Grey have western tendencies, but I wouldn't compare them to thrash metal, especially not the lot you just listed



you're being pretty naive if you think that there isn't a distinctly non-western flair in vk or that The GazettE and co. aren't riding on the coattails of bands like Dir En Grey who popularized it in Japan.