Album Rating: 5.0

Too much filler on Joe's garage, it still rules though.

Album Rating: 5.0

Too much filler? It's a story...



Other than MAYBE "He Used to Cut the Grass" I can't think of a single song on there that would have made the album better if it were cut.

Album Rating: 5.0

It's 3 albums dude, and from what I remember there was a number of forgettable tracks.

Album Rating: 5.0

And when I say too much filler I'm not making Joe's.G sound shit, but we're comparing it to this, which is unbelievably good.

Album Rating: 5.0

Honestly... Joe's Garage is my 7th favorite Zappa, Hot Rats (which is my 6th) just narrowly beats it...



I should really remake my Zappa ranker since it's changed a bit. Ugh that'd be so much work though that it better get featured...

Album Rating: 5.0

haha yeah. You should do it though!



What's your rank?

Album Rating: 5.0

It'll be a long process. I'll be sure to shoutbox you when the list is done.



EDIT: Yeah, so when I said "over 30" I meant 47... lol

Album Rating: 5.0

Jesus haha.



But yeah, send it my way!

Album Rating: 4.5

first track is sweet

Album Rating: 5.0

Album is sweet.

Album Rating: 5.0

killer

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Album is perfecto

Album Rating: 5.0

Gumbo Variations fuckin shreds got damn

Album Rating: 3.0

so why do some people think that jazz fusion = jazz-rock?

Album Rating: 4.5

they're close, but yeah, different sub-genres

Album Rating: 5.0

It's probably because the term "jazz fusion" sounds nicer than jazz rock, even if jazz rock is more commonly listened to.

I get a rock every time I listen to jazz. I think that's where the confusion came in.

Album Rating: 3.0

i don't think either sound very alike at all this has maybe a few minutes of jazz fusion on it but the rest of it is jazz rock and prog. don't know why it always gets toted as a cornerstone of fusion unless i'm missing something.

Can somebody explain the difference to me then please? According to wikipedia it's the same thing.

"Jazz Fusion is jazz that is strongly influenced by other styles of music. Jazz fusion is an ambiguous term that provides the first level sub-set down from Jazz. Jazz rock is a sub-sub set from jazz via jazz fusion. The ambiguity comes from an American tendency through the 90's and until now, to freely interchange jazz rock and jazz fusion, when in fact the latter term covers most hybrids of jazz fused with other forms of music. The roots of jazz rock can be traced back to RnB influenced soul-jazz artists such as Les McCann, Grant Green and Jimmy Smith, and young British jazzers such as Graham Bond, Ginger Baker, John McLaughlin, Jack Bruce, Georgie Fame, who were forced to use electronic instruments because the local club's acoustic instruments were reserved for the older established jazz musicians. Probably the first jazz artists that released recordings that mixed modern rock (circa 60s) with jazz were Larry Coryell, Jeremy Steig, Charles Lloyd, The Soft Machine, and The (Jazz) Crusaders. Meanwhile rock artists such as Cream, Grateful Dead and The Jimi Hendrix Experience were getting a lot of publicity and fame with their lengthy improvisations based on blues, rock, psychedelia and some jazz. These rock artists had an impact on Miles Davis who generated a lot of media attention to this new jazz-rock genre with his Bitches Brew album. From there the genre grew and exploded into numerous different directions. One of these directions was brass rock as exemplified by bands like Dreams, Chicago, BS&T and If. These bands combined elements of jazz, rock and classical music with arrangements for brass and woodwinds."