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THE RIFFS

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FIRST

LIIIIIIIGGGGHHHT

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Ok this kicks major ass. The fact that they aren't just mindlessly wanking and instead pay attention to songwriting in itself sets this apart from so much other DM.

very catchy album

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agreed

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Impossible to not headbang. Impossible.

TO THOSE ONCE LOYAL

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one of the best DM albums of all time

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Rules damn hard.

Killer riffs. Killer vocals.

yea

perfect way to end their discography - with an epic melodic death metal album in honor of the fallen soldiers.

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Karl Willetts is definitely one of my fav death metal vocalists.

you know I was thinking of making a list to discuss this but while we are here...

who started cookie monster vocals? I was thinking maybe it was Carcass with Reek, or Bolt Thrower?

It was probably an evolutionary thing, where the vox keep getting lower and lower until they got absurd, but Karl's vox are pretty damn low on Realm of Chaos. I was wondering maybe if the vocal effects used in I.N.R.I might have influenced that? Was there another album I'm forgetting or not aware of before this?

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"who started cookie monster vocals? I was thinking maybe it was Carcass with Reek, or Bolt Thrower?"



Jeff Becerra

Take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YfOGtXz4wg

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With some thrash growls sure but the man was the first to make this kind of vocals.

That's borderline, but I can see what you are saying. Yes these vocals were a shift away from normal thrash vocals. That album is about borderline everything, lol. Kind of the missing link.

After that album though? Reek? I mean some real low vox. The vox in INRI are pretty obviously effects/pitch shifted I think, and I think Karl's are pitch shifted in Realm, were the vox in Reek pitch-shifted?

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Humm



Well, you're right Karl Willetts on In Battle There Is No Law or Jeff Walker were pioneers.



Also:

David Vincent

Max Cavalera (somewhere between thrash and death) - Schizophrenia

Martin van Drunen - Pestilence - Not so low vox though

Chuck Schuldiner (Not so low vox) and Kam Lee (Death/Mantas)

So, I'm listening to this 1987 Morbid Angel demo. This might be the start of it with Dave?

I'm listening to the 1986 Morbid Angel demo, and that's before any Carcass material or Bolt Thrower, and I don't think it's pitch shifted any, and it's pretty low.

The vocals on Sarcofago's 1986 demo are very low for that period as well. It's Dave or Wagner(or both) I think that pushed it to the next level.