Album Rating: 3.0

Nightmare - 9.7/10

Waking the Fallen - 9.2/10

Life Is But a Dream - 8.6/10

Sounding the Seventh Trumpet - 8.3/10

The Stage - 7.8/10

S/T - 7.5/10

Diamonds in the Rough - 7.2/10

Hail to the King - 6.5/10

City of Evil - 5.9/10

Album Rating: 4.0

Ranking anything beneath HttK is wild to me... let alone CoE of all albums

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httk is kinda dope though

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but ranking city of evil below httk is super based

Album Rating: 4.5

I have the s/t slightly below HTTK, but mostly because of the extremely hit-and-miss nature of that album. Some of the experiments work, and some of them are just abysmal... to me, Life Is But a Dream is like the perfected version of the wacky genre-bending the band were trying to do on the s/t

Album Rating: 3.0

I feel Hail and City serve very similar purposes. They're both throwback-style metal albums. City of Evil is trying to be a cross between GnR and Iron Maiden (a direction I'm really not a huge fan of...I hate GnR and am whatever on Maiden, so this album just isn't much my thing), while HTTK is a Black Album homage. The production and vocals on HTTK give it an edge for me. Plus the second half of Hail goes in a direction that I like a lot more. It would be a 7 if not for the blatant GnR-aping Doing Time.

Album Rating: 4.0

HTTK is no where near as bad as this community makes it out to be. It’s not one of their strongest records, but certainly not their worst. I take it over their metalcore era every day of the week, outside of less than a handful of songs.

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titan with the spicy takes again httk is purty dope

Album Rating: 4.0

I’m not a huge fan of their first 2 albums

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah, but like, you just don't really like metalcore in general, right? (Not a dig, just would explain why that era of the band is a miss for you)

Album Rating: 3.0

Tbh my big gripe with this album is, well it's quite overrated for one, and for two it really reeks of the same issue I have with Hail to the King but to a greater degree. Hail is decidedly a Black Album worship album.

This feels like it's the "hey metal purists we like 80s music too, love us!" album, kinda like BFMV's Scream Aim Fire being blatant 80s thrash worship. It just doesn't look forward really. S/T goes all over the place and does a lot of different things. Nightmare is a bit more consistent but has the emotional aura of being the Revs swansong.

The Stage and the new one are both far more forward thinking. This just reads like they read too many forum posts about how they're "fake posers" and wanted metal elitists to accept them. Which btw didn't work.

Album Rating: 4.5

I honestly don't give a crap about the intent of the album when the music is as good as it is. And as far as I'm concerned the songwriting quality here is exceptional, regardless of whether it was intended to please a certain fanbase

Album Rating: 3.0

I mean fair enough. But personally, 72 minutes is a slog when the style they went with just doesn't really vibe with me. Doesn't help that I really never liked Beast and the Harlot that much.

Album Rating: 4.0

@Muppelope



I used to enjoy metalcore much more than I do now. I'm also getting soft with my old age. But even when I did like metalcore, I never cared for Avenged Sevenfolds version of it. I still enjoy the classics though...

Album Rating: 4.0

Fair enough. I don't think WtF is like the pinnacle of 2000s core either, though obviously I still do enjoy it quite a lot. I'll take pretty much any release from converge, tdep, botch, ptw, fear before, hopesfall, will haven, etid, norma jean, zao, etc... over that any day. To be clear, these guys are like a 4/5 band overall to me. One of the things that's so special about them is that they are as big and as mainstream as they are. I really appreciate how good they are for what they are. I mean, I can talk about them to nearly half my irl friends and they'll at least know who I'm talking about. It's crazy how rare that is.



Also, this is so much more enjoyable than httk it's not even funny. What a snooze that album is. But to be fair, I'd take most of iron maiden's records over the black album any day.

Album Rating: 3.0

HTTK is simpler but it almost works to an advantage over this. This just feels like the "hey guys we really like Iron Maiden and Guns n Roses love us metal elitists" album. Even down to the lyrical content at times. And its length is a bit annoying considering how throwback-y it feels.

this album is like if gnr and dream theater had a baby

Album Rating: 4.0

This album holds up. I really think the Bat Country solo is one of the best ever

Album Rating: 4.0

I haven't listened to this in full in ages! I remember loving most of it but finding it quite bloated in some tracks and some meh vocals. Beast and the Harlot is an incredible song.

Bat country owns yeah