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wwf
November 11th 2017


7198 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

'...Sowing, I love you, but there's so many things wrong with this'



I get the temptation to write it off as some sort of consensual thing that was being manipulated into something slanderous later because Jesse's so hot, but that's definitely not what was being described lmao

Rigma
November 11th 2017


864 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

sowing pls stop

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

She



Was



15



Even if she was tempting him, there's nothing that can make this okay if it's true. Seeing Sowing try to justify it makes me sick to my stomach

SteakByrnes
November 11th 2017


31061 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

All the averages about to tank

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

Oh I'm not changing my 5 tho

NordicMindset
November 11th 2017


25137 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

"Not saying he isn't guilty, because if he is, then my level of respect will do a 180, but I'm reserving judgment for now. Nowadays it seems 'accused' is synonymous with 'guilty'."

If this was the only statement, then yeah I'd agree, but the other part does raise some problem flags.

It's understandable at least, because it's hard for him to think that his favorite singer is capable of doing such things. I am a hypocrite as well, as I have no problem condemning Weinstein and co. but treat Spacey and Louis differently just because I like them, and same with Jesse as well. Although, yeah, I never idolized Jesse as a paragon of humanity, because he has made it very clear that he's fucked up in several songs. I'm on my way to hell, God knows I've tried. I am on the mend, I hope you will forgive things I still lack.

SteakByrnes
November 11th 2017


31061 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

From what I understand he sent nudes to an underage girl, I could be wrong tho

robotmagician
November 11th 2017


1328 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

man, there are and have been a lot of stories about jesse. that facebook post was made by FOB and Guns 'n' Roses' guitar tech. Does he know jesse/has he toured with Brand New?



I know it sucks, my favorite band is Swans and so seeing that thing with Gira is a gut punch. people are terrible, and more and more stories have been coming out because people are finally seeing consequences for their actions. just because the actions haven't been proven to be true doesn't mean we should be jumping to their defense. the whole notion that people are always falsely accusing is wildly incorrect, sorry Sowing, but that's just wrong. If anything, the amount of rapes or sexual assaults or abuses that go unreported far exceed the amount of reports that are false. and it's not close.

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

Mayhem. Look. It. Up.

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

"the amount of rapes or sexual assaults or abuses that go unreported far exceed the amount of reports that are false. and it's not close."

Thank you, this is so true

Project
November 11th 2017


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

check the FB post i linked earlier but basically a woman claimed he manipulated her into sending nudes when she was 15 and made her watch him jack off on skype or a similar app



also guys as much as I think what sowing said is problematic he's not the person to be mad at right now

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

sexual misconduct technically, she was a minor

Project
November 11th 2017


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

also to people saying "oh it's because they're almost done"



victims. have. nothing. to. gain. and. everything. to. lose.

robotmagician
November 11th 2017


1328 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Mayhem, if she was underage then of course - I am not 100% sure about the other thing. if it's unwanted i'm sure one could argue it is harassment, but assault I would say no

neekafat
Emeritus
November 11th 2017


26926 Comments

Album Rating: 4.9

I know Freak, and you're right

I guess it's just having someone you admire act in such a way that's disappointing or disrespectful

Which I'm feeling two-fold now lol

SteakByrnes
November 11th 2017


31061 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Jesse about to take a Limousine to prison

Deathconscious
November 11th 2017


27920 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Someone on facebook accused him of soliciting nude photos when he was 24 and she was 15 and she says he jacked off on skype in front of her.



Edit: shit shouldve refreshed the page before i replied.

Project
November 11th 2017


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

this thread is gonna break the servers again

Project
November 11th 2017


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

name one case where an alleged victim of sexual harassment/assault by some level of famous person turned out to be outright lying. cite your sources pls

Project
November 11th 2017


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"Way too many people instantly attack and crucify someone as soon as accusations are made"



victims. have. nothing. to. gain. and. everything. to. lose.





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